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Shingo
14-03-2006, 22:44
I have heard people metioning 'Hot Mode' I am not sure what this is, and was wondering whether anyone could link me to the thread, or explain it.
Thanks.

Akis
14-03-2006, 23:34
We use the term "hot mode" to describe a state of overexcitement and high tension during powerballing, wherein you are enabled to unleash your full energy and achieve your peak performance.

It generally takes effect after many repeated intense sessions; it might as well take hours!

Regards, Akis

Scr3Am3r
15-03-2006, 06:53
We use the term "hot mode" to describe a state of overexcitement and high tension during powerballing, wherein you are enabled to unleash your full energy and achieve your peak performance.

It generally takes effect after many repeated intense sessions; it might as well take hours!

Regards, Akis

That's right. You go in hot mode after a long intense session of powerballing when you suddenly "unleash your hidden powers"(and start getting high scores constantly {I'm serious it works!}). Those videos of Akis are recorded after about an hour or more until he reaches hot mode. Am I right Akis?:D

The Force
15-03-2006, 09:17
That's right. You go in hot mode after a long intense session of powerballing when you suddenly "unleash your hidden powers"(and start getting high scores constantly {I'm serious it works!}). Those videos of Akis are recorded after about an hour or more until he reaches hot mode. Am I right Akis?:D

Nah...these were all taken during warming up. I am right Akis? :-P :-P

The Force

James M
15-03-2006, 09:25
What amazes me is the bit when Akis changes hands, hes so relaxed and the ball must be doing 13500+, thats about my fastest!

Scr3Am3r
15-03-2006, 10:18
Nah...these were all taken during warming up. I am right Akis? :-P :-P

The Force

LOL it's that same :p

Adrena1in
15-03-2006, 11:07
I don't agree that "Hot Mode" is always achieved after much warming up. A while back I woke one Saturday morning and decided to do half an hour or so of Powerballing. I decided to start with some one-handed 90-second endurance...something I often do. I certainly wasn't intending to achieve any records, but I found that I could keep the Powerball going at fairly high speed and wasn't getting tired. I easily broke my one-handed 90-second records, achieving over 16000 with my right hand and then around 15500 with my left hand, immediately after.

That, to me, was a "Hot Mode", even though I was nowhere near able to achieve top speeds near my records.

Akis
16-03-2006, 01:08
Those videos of Akis are recorded after about an hour or more until he reaches hot mode. Am I right Akis?:D
Absolutely!

Nah...these were all taken during warming up. I am right Akis? :-P :-P
Absolutely! :-p
(Though you are almost correct if you are referring to 90s scores)

I don't agree that "Hot Mode" is always achieved after much warming up. A while back I woke one Saturday morning and decided to do half an hour or so of Powerballing. I decided to start with some one-handed 90-second endurance...something I often do. I certainly wasn't intending to achieve any records, but I found that I could keep the Powerball going at fairly high speed and wasn't getting tired. I easily broke my one-handed 90-second records, achieving over 16000 with my right hand and then around 15500 with my left hand, immediately after.

That, to me, was a "Hot Mode", even though I was nowhere near able to achieve top speeds near my records.

I feel that "hot mode" is mainly applicable to peak rpm (in my case at least). I think that when trying 90s it is more important that you are well rested than over tensed. I've tried 90s when in "hot mode" however I get quickly worn out and don't manage the best scores. I score best in 90s after a normal warm-up without much tension. And in any case after 5-6 efforts my performance drops and does not rise through further runs. On the other hand, hundreds of sessions in speed efforts eventually give me better scores.

The Force
16-03-2006, 09:26
I feel that "hot mode" is mainly applicable to peak rpm (in my case at least). I think that when trying 90s it is more important that you are well rested than over tensed. I've tried 90s when in "hot mode" however I get quickly worn out and don't manage the best scores. I score best in 90s after a normal warm-up without much tension. And in any case after 5-6 efforts my performance drops and does not rise through further runs. On the other hand, hundreds of sessions in speed efforts eventually give me better scores.

Hi Akis,

That brings me to an important question. If you are doing literally hundreds of trials (which would take several hours) how much rest do you take in between the runs? 1 minute? less? more?

So something like:

Strategy 1:
Run left
1 minute rest
Run right
1 minute rest
Run lef
etc

or

Strategy 2:
Run left
30sec rest
Run right
30 sec rest
Run left
etc

Just curious. I can tell you that I use Strategy 1.

Best regards,

The Force
P.S. Man, I am lucky that I am left-right balanced ;-)

Adrena1in
16-03-2006, 11:24
I feel that "hot mode" is mainly applicable to peak rpm (in my case at least).Yes, I think that's the same for most people really. But I'm more into Endurance than Top Speed, (mainly because I'm better at it!), so my "Hot Mode" is a bit different. ;)

I would say I've only really hit Top Speed Hot Mode perhaps twice. Once after an hour of persistent endurance, (increased my speed record by 800), and once on a Live Chat Evening at Gyrotek, where I did about four or five 90-second endurance runs and then maybe ten speed runs, ending with a new record for me, (and a win in the Chat Evening...something that will never happen again I'm sure). :(

Akis
16-03-2006, 16:37
That brings me to an important question. If you are doing literally hundreds of trials (which would take several hours) how much rest do you take in between the runs? 1 minute? less? more?
I don't have a particular pattern. Usually the elapsed time when counter has turned off is enough. But occasionally (e.g. every 10-15 sessions) I may take longer intervals (3-5 minutes) to catch my breath.

Palm Pilot
16-03-2006, 16:55
C'mon Akis, give us the stinky Feta. What have you been able to hit on the 250HZ now? Unbelievable videos my friend.

However, on on your next video could you position the camera so it gets your fist with powerball more? If you watch, most stop right at the top of your wrist mostly showing your shoulder down to the top of your wrist. It's interesting to see how fast you get your hand/wrist rotating.

Keep on harpooning!

James M
16-03-2006, 17:04
Actually a close-up video of how you hold the ball would be good :)

Scr3Am3r
16-03-2006, 17:36
Yes I agree!

r3d
16-03-2006, 19:49
ya, i wanna see that wrist spinning.... seems awesome

and how fast DO you get the ball now?

Akis
17-03-2006, 01:16
Believe me guys, the way you hold the ball is up to your convenience. It's pointless trying to emulate my way; even I cannot produce the same holding method with my right hand.

Regarding wrist spinning, at very high speeds the wrist/hand is virtually not rotating at all. There is only some sort of vibrating movement driven by the whole arm. You are right that hand movement is not quite evident in the videos. Though you can see it in this (http://www.powerballs.com/akis14953.wmv) older video (it is a low score but the result is the same).

Unfortunately I've been slowed down lately and my performance is far from optimum. Nowadays I can hit 15.6-15.7k scores.

(Feta stinky? I think you are misled my friend... :-)

Autolupus
17-03-2006, 01:51
Was playing with the 250Hz and sounded like it was scoring higher! So swapped counter with 350Hz. Still the same! Reved up 350 :10805, best I'd ever done.Tried again 11016. Can't even hit 12k on 250Hz at mo"!!!:p Bring on the megasaurus!!!:cool:

Adrena1in
17-03-2006, 09:56
(Feta stinky? I think you are misled my friend.Indeed...especially when mixed with vine-tomatoes, cucumber, olives, herbs and extra virgin olive oil. (Was all I ate when in Crete several years ago!!) ;)

Palm Pilot
18-03-2006, 23:57
(Feta stinky? I think you are misled my friend... :-)


Holy Cow...you guys,

"Stinky cheese" (Feta if you're GREEK) is slang for the lowdown.

Akis, Steven, and Tim y'all call me before you come to the states so I can prep you for the culture shock:eek:

Guys I'm done with the American slang...so misinterpreted.

FYI Akis - I prefer the hard feta with Roma tomatos in a little balsamic vinaigrette ;)

The Force
19-03-2006, 19:43
Holy Cow...you guys,

"Stinky cheese" (Feta if you're GREEK) is slang for the lowdown.

Akis, Steven, and Tim y'all call me before you come to the states so I can prep you for the culture shock:eek:

Guys I'm done with the American slang...so misinterpreted.

FYI Akis - I prefer the hard feta with Roma tomatos in a little balsamic vinaigrette ;)

Haha Palm Pilot being misunderstood all over the place ;-)
But I told you, mate, it's the expressions you are using which make people look :confused: :confused:
Regards,

The Force

Palm Pilot
20-03-2006, 00:22
Haha Palm Pilot being misunderstood all over the place ;-)
But I told you, mate, it's the expressions you are using which make people look :confused: :confused:
Regards,

The Force

Understood and done with, went to college with a guy from Greece and Wales...I was clueless around both of them. Back on topic, this could be your month to win that new powerball, you really deserve it plus, you can crush my score. I tried to use my arm and could barely break 11K and that's disappointing. Even if I keep my place I doubt if I can make a video proving it. Lost that "hot mode" somewhere in the ball park. :( That's not slang, blew my arm out playing baseball.

James M
20-03-2006, 00:33
Haha Palm Pilot being misunderstood all over the place ;-)
But I told you, mate, it's the expressions you are using which make people look :confused: :confused:
Regards,

The Force

I understand just fine ;)

Autolupus
20-03-2006, 01:30
"the force" is just narked cos "palm pilot"'s got the coolest vid.;)

r3d
20-03-2006, 02:35
"the force" is just narked cos "palm pilot"'s got the coolest vid.;)

LOLZ.....palm pilot's "two one-handed thumb flick" video is pretty kool.....not saying "the force" had a bad video.....but wasn't as "kool"

xDDDDDDD

Palm Pilot
20-03-2006, 02:50
"the force" is just narked cos "palm pilot"'s got the coolest vid.;)

Be nice...

My video is a little coordination and a lot of luck.

The Force's has coordination, strength, and speed. I know I can't do that...Beat his dual scores, then you can talk some smack. ;) I'm keeping my mouth shut.

r3d
20-03-2006, 08:53
I'm keeping my mouth shut.


OHHHH!!!.....keeping it kool now eh?...

haha....j/k.....your both way better than what i can do

:p

The Force
20-03-2006, 12:38
Thanks guys.

Indeed, Palm Pilot and I have a deep respect for each other's performance. His dual flick start is ultra cool, and I am very happy that I can impress him with my dual speed runs (but stay tuned guys, because I am going to crack that 27000rpm barrrier pretty soon ;), after which I will hunt for 27500+ and 28000+ respectively).

Best regards,

The Force
P.S. But I still prefer to get the free powerballs for breaking my speed record ;)

Palm Pilot
20-03-2006, 15:08
OHHHH!!!.....keeping it kool now eh?...


Nope, just respectful.

I prefer to let the scores and videos do the talking and The Force has them both.

Autolupus
13-05-2006, 17:33
Reckon I must have hit hot mode!:eek:
Just scored 11371 on my metal, didn't think I'd beat it, then hit 11536!:D
Thought I'd pick up the 250Hz and have a blast and smashed my way into the 13k club with a score of 13805! :D I was quite literally shocked and elated all at the same time, I knew I'd eventually break the 13k but didn't expect it to be quite like this! The little ball was screaming it's head off.:p

donkapone
13-05-2006, 18:06
omg! that's a huge progress! congratulations autolupus!

LewyOs
13-05-2006, 23:44
Reckon I must have hit hot mode!:eek:
Just scored 11371 on my metal, didn't think I'd beat it, then hit 11536!:D
Thought I'd pick up the 250Hz and have a blast and smashed my way into the 13k club with a score of 13805! :D I was quite literally shocked and elated all at the same time, I knew I'd eventually break the 13k but didn't expect it to be quite like this! The little ball was screaming it's head off.:p

How long did it take you to reach hot mode?

Autolupus
14-05-2006, 00:24
Not long at all actually, only a few minutes! There was about ten minutes between the metal and 250Hz and just felt really strong! Don't think I'll better that score for a while. My scores had been improving quite well after what felt like a bit of a plateau! Maybe I've stepped up a gear, 12713 was my best for about 5months then I started scoring better all over!

Autolupus
14-05-2006, 18:20
Just increased my 90's to 15958.:D 16k+ next!
Submitted my metal, 250Hz speed and 90's scores, just waiting for the update now! It's been a good weekend!:D

Adrena1in
14-05-2006, 19:47
...smashed my way into the 13k club with a score of 13805! :D I was quite literally shocked and elated all at the same time, I knew I'd eventually break the 13k but didn't expect it to be quite like this! The little ball was screaming it's head off.:pBlimey, that is a massive improvement. My biggest improvement in one go was 12006 to 12802. That was AGES ago and I've still not added even 800 revs to my record in about 15 increments! I've decided to take a few weeks rest. Yeah, and I've said that before! :rolleyes:

Did you video your Metal scores? They won't get approved otherwise. But I can go and approve your 13805.

Well done. ;)

Autolupus
14-05-2006, 20:49
Thanks Adrena1in, my current improvements have really geed me up.:)
Short term I'm aiming for 16k+ 90's, 11700+ metal and I think it'll be a while for me to break the 250Hz score(maybe my technique is clicking into place?) but to score consistently in the 13ks. :rolleyes:

Adrena1in
15-05-2006, 09:51
I found that as soon as I hurdled almost completely over the 12ks, I would then repeatedly score in the high 12ks from then on. I've not got close to 13500 again recently, but I can pretty much guarantee I'll break 13k at will now.

13805 might've been a fluke, but to achieve that even once you must have the technique right, so you know you've got it in you. (Unless it was a counter error, though I very much doubt it was...I've never seen an obvious counter error under about 14800.)

Autolupus
15-05-2006, 18:18
I'm pretty sure it wasn't a counter misread, the ball just kept accelerating and the sound told me it was going to be a good score.
I do agree that it was probably a fluke, but hopefully only in the same way that my early 12713 was, that took ages to better and then all of a sudden I was beating it regularly!:p
I'd just scored well on the metal and felt pretty strong, I seemed to get into a "zone" and everything seemed to click into place.
Over the next few months hopefully my technique will start to stabilise and become more consistent. I'm definitely going to try for records on the metal THEN the 250Hz, everything feels primed and ready, and after the metal the 250Hz feels so much easier.:)

Adrena1in
16-05-2006, 15:14
I'm pretty sure it wasn't a counter misread, the ball just kept accelerating and the sound told me it was going to be a good score.
I do agree that it was probably a fluke...Yeah, as I said, I've never personally seen a counter-error under about 14800. I knew of someone ages ago who got a Powerball, and apparently started with something like 12016, then suddenly one day managed 13522. He couldn't then get over 11k. I guess some people are just erratic.

Autolupus
17-05-2006, 17:34
Have just broken the 90's 16k barrier, 16246 and have hit 13k+ again 13011, nearly broke it with my left 12997. :D

donkapone
17-05-2006, 18:06
congrats Autolupus - your Hot Mode lasts longer than for most people ;)

Autolupus
17-05-2006, 18:15
Yeah I know.;) Actually been feeling quite weak, had a bug.:( and did not get into any sort of mode but still beat my 90's, wanted to post and didn't really know where. As I'd said about breaking 16k in this thread I thought I'd post here, I know it's off thread, sorry!:o

Adrena1in
18-05-2006, 11:52
...have hit 13k+ again 13011, nearly broke it with my left 12997. :D
So you and I are pretty much on a par at the moment. Last night I did 13001 with my left, then 13069 and 13083 with my right, (the first of those done using reverse rotation...i.e. stirring my hand in the opposite direction to what I call "normal".)

I would certainly love to have a "Hot Mode" where I blast ahead and add 800 to those scores...I've not got near my records for too long. If I do do it, I think it's going to be in reverse. We'll see. Off on holiday tomorrow for a week, so I will take a much needed rest and see how things are when I come back.

Autolupus
19-05-2006, 18:11
Dare you leave the ball at home?;) :rolleyes: :D