The Force's scores

[The Force]

This thread is reserved for my personal scores, in case they become interesting again :D :D .

Regards,

The Force

[petemayhew]

Glad you made a thread!

Be interesting to follow your scores. :cool:

[The Force]

I can only hope they become interesting very soon, Pete.

All I need to do is train until my metal scores are around 12000 again (and believe me they will ;) ). At that moment I expect my regular scores to be back to 14000+ too. Anyway, even before that time I'll share with you my progress.

Regards,

The Force

[xaverr]

Nice to see a thread from you...;)
Let's see some scores now... :D

Regards!

[The Force]

Well ok then, even though they are not impressive I will mention them from now on:

14 oktober 2007, metal series:
Run Left Right
1 11359 11200
2 11364 11323
3 11372 11435
4 11380 11531
5 11429 11446
6 11365 11434

18 oktober 2007, metal series:
Run Left Right
1 11582 11204
2 11627 11485
3 11590 11575
4 11580 11627
5 11434 11634
6 11336 11470

Regards,

The Force

[xaverr]

First you will improve your Metal scores, then the plastics??, don't want to train both?. 11.650 is a very nice score for me with Metal. Now I make like 11.300 or so, I lost my 350Hz technique...:(

[The Force]

First you will improve your Metal scores, then the plastics??, don't want to train both?. 11.650 is a very nice score for me with Metal. Now I make like 11.300 or so, I lost my 350Hz technique...:(

I think my plastics scores will go up automatically when my metals scores go up. At least this is what happened 2 years ago too.

Anyway, I am pretty convinced that I can easily go above 12000 (I mean, if Adrenaline can do it.... :p :D.....). The only thing I need to be careful with is injury risks like tendons problems. If I can prevent that from happening again I'll break my record soon, I am sure about that.

Have a nice day,

The Force

[ESL]

Hi,:)
Nice scores you've got on the metal, Force.May i ask what is your highest scores on metal/plastic:)


Anyway good luck with your scores(u too xaverr):)

[The Force]

Yes, you may ask that of course.

My left hand record is 14332rpm and my right hand record is 14100rpm :eek: :eek: :D :D .

At your service ;) ;)

Regards,

The Force

[xaverr]

Mmmm..., I have a doubt about you Force...:rolleyes: , are you studying now?, you make little session just a few times per month for studys..?, or you are making Powerball normaly?. I'm not sure but I read a few weeks ago a thread saying that you are studying and you will start again in March, or that was not you??? lol :D :p

PS: You had tendons problem in the past?, how much time took you to recovered?, my elbow is not very well now(Powerball), so I think that resting a week it will be ok again...( I hope so)

Regards!

[The Force]

Mmmm..., I have a doubt about you Force...:rolleyes: , are you studying now?, you make little session just a few times per month for studys..?, or you are making Powerball normaly?. I'm not sure but I read a few weeks ago a thread saying that you are studying and you will start again in March, or that was not you??? lol :D :p

PS: You had tendons problem in the past?, how much time took you to recovered?, my elbow is not very well now(Powerball), so I think that resting a week it will be ok again...( I hope so)

Regards!

Yes, I am still studying (my exams are in March 2008). However, even though I am studying I still feel temptation to take up the powerball for a few runs. Especially Sunday is my favorite day to do this. And normally I try to keep one day per weekend free of study. I also need a life you know. But on average I train once a week (since a few weeks).

Yes, i had severe tendon problems with my thumbs. I think I overdid with the metal (sometimes my training sessions took two hours in total). And how long that takes to heal?? Well, in my case very very long (easily more than 6 months). Also, I think that once you have had this problem, you should be more carefully as it may be a permanent weakness, or how do you call that in English.

And over course I cannot look into your elbow. I do not know whether you suffer from tendonitis or something else. What i do know is that you should listen to your body carefully and take any pains very serious. One week of rest may not be enough.

Regards,

The Force

[The Force]

And since today is Sunday...I took up my metal, but a different one than before (I own three normal metals + a golden metal).

Here are the results of today's session:

21 oktober 2007, metal series:
Run Left Right
1 11761 11416
2 11620 11433
3 11691 11452
4 11641 11555
5 11186* 11627
6 11488 11430
7 11198* 11671
8 11615 11369
9 11858 11756
10 11563 11674
11 11977** 11858
12 11804 11931***
13 11516 11921

* lost grip during run
** best left hand score of the session, best scores since ages ;)
*** best right hand score of the session, new personal record

Soundball (just for fun, because my arms were dead :D )
Run Left Right
1 13376 13196

So, my best left hand score was only 70rpm from my personal record (12047rpm), and
I HAVE IMPROVED MY RIGHT HAND RECORD!!!!!! YAHOO!!!!!! :D :D :D :D
My old right hand record was 11867rpm, btw.

You can imagine that I am filled with joy at the moment. Can't wait until my next session.

Regards,

The Force

[Armitage]

Congrats! in your case it's matter of few session when you beat your old records :D

[petemayhew]

Nice metal record! :D

You have to catch me now! You don't want a pidley little 15 year old beat you do you?! :p

[xaverr]

You have to catch me now! You don't want a pidley little 15 year old beat you do you?! :p[/quote]

LOL... :D

Congrats for your Metal Score, your left record is not so far now..., just matter of time;)

My elbow is doing a little clack when I move it..., but I don't think that will take 6 months to recover..., just 10 days or so... ( I hope so):rolleyes:

[The Force]

Thanks for all nice words guys.

And when I will beat my absolute records with the metal? I don't know...I first need to take time to recover from today's session. I really feel every muscle in my arm and my fingers are hurting still. And another thing is...today i think i reached a hot-mode, which is not necessarily true for every session. But...we'll see.

And about 15 year old boys beating me with powerballing ;) ..well...honestly I do not understand it completely yet, but most likely it is all about my powerball metal technique which is not good. Therefore my scores are not yet above 12k. Without trying to be arrogant, my arms are strong (and they are not thin :D and definitely thicker than arms of some other competitors ranked higher, see the videos on powerballs.com and gyrotek.net).

What I have noticed too is that with the metal it is of utmost important that you are absolutely sure you have 100% grip on the metal before you do your run, or else the metal will try to escape from your hand during the run. This happens to me regularly still. With my right hand I managed better locking-grips than with my left hand. Still my left hand technique is better I think.

Well, enough blabla for the moment :D .

Regards,

The Force

[ESL]

:D Congratulation on your new record:D :D Come on 12k is less than a mm away:D

[The Force]

Of course I will break my current metal record. The question is not IF I will break it, but rather WHEN I will break it ;) ;) .

Regards,

The Force

[The Force]

Ok, I did some serious powerballing again with the metal.

Left Right
11501 11631
11731 11736
11491 11642
11529 11699
11751 11520
11863 11580
11283 11634
11740 11760
11584 11795
11902 11581
11804 11745
11619 11878
11611 11521
11732 11506
11812 11407
11621 11355
Averages
11661 11624

So unfortunately no hotmode, but still I am satisfied with the consistency ;) .

Regards,

The Force

[ESL]

Very nice scores:D ;) Maybe not a new record but surely VERY close ;)

[xaverr]

Not hot mode??:rolleyes: :p , I'll be happy with 11.9k with my left... lol

Regards!

[The Force]

Balance has never been my problem. But that is purely because I always trained both hands from the very beginning.

Still, it strikes me that my right-handed technique is so extremely different from my left hand technique. For some reason, despite all trials, I do not manage to make both techniques equal. I am very interested to know if other people are struggling with this too. And also what is the general opinion on this, should left and right hand technique be the same or is that not needed?

Personally, I do have a small bias towards equal techniques for both hands. This also beneficial for dual runs.

Regards,

The Force

[ESL]

The techniques on my hands are similar but not the same:)
Though i think that if you've got the same techinque then you'll surely have an advantage in dual runs;)

[Adrena1in]

... if you've got the same techinque then you'll surely have an advantage in dual runs;)

Definitely. It's where I fall down on the Dual-Hand scores. :o

[The Force]

http://members.chello.nl/v.vandijk2/pb_theforce_m12096.jpg

http://members.chello.nl/v.vandijk2/pb_theforce_m12096.wmv

No further comments :D :D :D :D :D :D

Regards,

The Force
P.S. The series was as follows (sorry still further comment ;) )

1 11854 11539
2 11492 11536
3 11799 11486
4 11938 11616
5 11814 11626
6 11743 11693
7 12096 11540
8 11579 11599
9 11788 11858
10 11679 11810
11 11604 11430
12 11930 11293
13 12060 11688
14 11855 11374
15 11697 11688
16 11487 11618
Average 11776 11587

[petemayhew]

...12096...12060...

Wow nice metal scores!

Both your hands are really balanced which is really hard for me as I only concentrate on my dominant hand and not the recessive one. :o

[Armitage]

Nice balance nice scores :D Good work coming back Steve :)

[The Force]

Thanks guys....it feels really great to be able to break my old record (which I actually did in a second or third cold run on the 1st of January 2006 at my parents place.

And in this run I broke the 12k barrier twice, which brings me to a total of 3 12k+ runs :D :D .

Regards,

The Force

[Armitage]

hey, i've had 3 12+ spins too! :D (it was my fourth session with metal)

[ESL]

Very well done Force:D Totally agree: It's always nice to break an old record:D Go for more;)

[The Force]

Yes boss!!! :D :D

The Force

[Installed]

Good one!

I think I've only had 2 12k+ runs, 12055 and 12200.

[The Force]

WHAT!!!!!????? You lucky b.st.rd!!! :mad: :D :mad: :D

;) ;)

The Force

[The Force]

http://members.chello.nl/v.vandijk2/pb_theforce_m12105.jpg

http://members.chello.nl/v.vandijk2/pb_theforce_m12105.wmv

No further comments :D :D :D :D :D :D

Regards,

The Force
P.S. The series was as follows:
1 11757 11566
2 11481 11635
3 11631 11580
4 11804 11758
5 11876 11731
6 12054 11683
7 11987 11548
8 11867 11362
9 11849 11662
10 11785 11449
11 12105 11382
12 11561 11536
13 11778 11603
14 11629 11520
15 11689 11493
16 11637 11384

Which brings me at a total of five 12k+ scores :D :D.

[ESL]

Congrats Force:D :D :D It seems you've mastered the technique for 12k with metal :D

[The Force]

Only just...only just buddy.

This 12105 run was a bit illustrative in that respect. Initially, in the run you will hear that the speed was not that high, but suddenly I managed to shortly synchronise my movements better with the powerball and the score jumped up (above 12k :D ), which you clearly hear in the sound.

Regards,

The Force

[Armitage]

Are you trying to make 12 k every session?:D:D Nice work :P

[Pako]

Congrats! TheForce!

studies are compatible with powerballs :D

update your 12105 in the signature, and now get that right hand cross 12k too :p


Pako.

[xaverr]

Congrats Force!!, try to make a 250Hz Session now..., I want more videos of 14k with Regulars...:D :rolleyes:

Regards!!

[The Force]

I hope so

Let's see..how long that will take for me.

Regards,

The Force
EDIT: Today I did a bit of training at managed a couple of 13500+ scores in the end. I think I should focus a bit more on the plastic from now on.

[jihmmie]

I thought you were talking about 12K plastic! I though, "no way! The Force can definitely hit 12K" and when I saw the video I realized it was, obviously, metal...

Good stuff!

[The Force]

I thought you were talking about 12K plastic! I though, "no way! The Force can definitely hit 12K" and when I saw the video I realized it was, obviously, metal...

Good stuff!

Hey...my powerball fall-back is not that bad!!! ;) ;)

Regards,

The Force

[Armitage]

I thought you were talking about 12K plastic! I though, "no way! The Force can definitely hit 12K" and when I saw the video I realized it was, obviously, metal...

Good stuff!


:D:D you were really thinking he was happy to get 12 k plastic? :D

[jihmmie]

That's what I thought too, I was thinking, "NO WAY!" Sorry!

[petemayhew]

Wow nice record The Force!

Still yet to beat me though?! But you will sail past I'm sure in your next session! :D

[The Force]

Next session?

I hope so, but you can't be sure.
I still need hot-modes to get passed 12k you know.

Regards,

The Force

[The Force]

Yesterday I did some mild regular training and managed to get to a couple of 13500+ scores in the end. I hope that this trend will continue and that I will be able to post some 14k+ videos soon ;-). Well it will definitely not be before coming weekend for sure, because I will rest (and study ;) ).

Regards,

The Force

[The Force]

Did some powerball training today (after a 2 week break).

Here is the list of scores:
1 11967 11512
2 11877 11569
3 11869 11637
4 11727 11640
5 11926 11291
6 12039 11857
7 11874 11414
8 11729 11811
9 11548 11787
10 11687 11672
11 11932 11702
12 11731 11566
13 11723 11395
14 11728 11617
Average 11811 11605

So, not a speed record today. Still a 12k+ score and I did beat my left-hand average score record (11811rpm :D :D )

So, I am still happy.

Regards,

The Force

[jihmmie]

You didn't specify if it was plastic or metal...but I'll assume metal based on past know-how...

[Armitage]

You didn't specify if it was plastic or metal...but I'll assume metal based on past know-how...


Yes a metal session very obvious :D:D

I think you had good sess considering the fact that you had this break :D

[The Force]

Ermm...yes it was the metal :D :D

Regards,

The Force

[ESL]

Very nice Force:D You were quite close to your record:) You are in a very good path;) :)

[The Force]

Very nice Force:D You were quite close to your record:) You are in a very good path;) :)

Apart from that I made a strange move with my neck during last session and that I now have a sore neck, yes I am on the right track I think. Still I should focus more on plastic too as that increases your muscle speed. Metal merely increases muscle strength I think. And you need both to achieve high plastic scores.

Regards,

The Force

[xaverr]

I agree with you Force..., spin both, and scores should improve...

PS: New Plastic Record: 13.952 :cool: :D

Regards!

[The Force]

I agree with you Force..., spin both, and scores should improve...

PS: New Plastic Record: 13.952 :cool: :D

Regards!

Congrats...although I actually should congratulate you in your own score thread ;) ;)

Hopefully, I'll regain my former powerballs skills in time, before you guys are all passing me in the top100, kicking me out of that list.

Regards,

The Force

[Adrena1in]

Hopefully, I'll regain my former powerballs skills in time...

Once you can really dedicate yourself to Powerballs again I'm sure you'll go shooting back up the Top 100, but you'll never catch me! :D ;)

[The Force]

Ok, I did some plastic practising today. Managed to stay in a cold-mode for 1 hour and 20 mins :D :D .

Nevertheless, towards the end my scores started become a bit more crap than rubbish :D :D. So, maybe there is hope.

What I have found out btw is that my " wrist-only" scores and my "wrist+arm" scores are pretty much similar. Expressed differently, somehow I do not seem to get much higher scores while adding my arm movements. And expressed yet differently :D :D :D , I think my arm technique sucks big time.

Run Left Right
1 13227 13263
2 13100 13160
3 12999 13267
4 13037 13168
5 13139 13366
6 13200 12954
7 13311 13065
8 13049 12887
9 13181 12992
10 13223 13174
11 13064 13226
12 13312 12751
13 13182 13423
14 13200 13141
15 13492 13259
16 13301 13365
Average 13189 13154

Regards,

The Force
P.S. No need to worry for Adrenal1n ;) ;) (not YET :D :D ):D

[LTLFTC]

They are reassuringly bad. :o I'm feeling your pain. My left isn't as crappy as yours but my right is crappier at the moment:(

[The Force]

They are reassuringly bad. :o I'm feeling your pain. My left isn't as crappy as yours but my right is crappier at the moment:(

Pain is not the right word. Dissapointment is. And also I do not understand how it can be that after only 14 weeks (more than 2 years ago) of powerballing I ran easily into 14k+ scores (and felt at that time I could do much more), and now even 13500+ seems exceptional. I can only explain it that my technique has changed towards a worse technique for high speeds. But then how can I solve this problem? Any ideas? :confused: :confused:

Regards,

The Force

[LTLFTC]

Pain is not the right word. Dissapointment is. And also I do not understand how it can be that after only 14 weeks (more than 2 years ago) of powerballing I ran easily into 14k+ scores (and felt at that time I could do much more), and now even 13500+ seems exceptional. I can only explain it that my technique has changed towards a worse technique for high speeds. But then how can I solve this problem? Any ideas? :confused: :confused:

Regards,

The Force
I wish I knew. It took me 4 months to get to 14k and 6 months to get back there. I don't do much different. I can be struggling to get 13k one day then be at 14k 3 days later then back down to 13.5 3 days later. I try new things, rest, don't rest, the long and the short of it is if I get it on a good day I get good scores if not they're crappy. It doesn't seem to relate to anything else. Maybe I should chart my biorhythms, any one know when the moon is rising in Venus next???

[Adrena1in]

I can only go from my past experience of really struggling, and it was because my technique was bad. I had done so much endurance that I could go at 12k or 13k quite easily, and could sustain that speed, but I couldn't get into "Pulse" mode. My muscles had learned to make circles, and I couldn't stop it.

I know I didn't get to 13.5k that quickly from when I first started Powerballing, (though I put that down partly to the fact the "Community" wasn't very large then, and I didn't have the motivation. But for over a year I couldn't get near 13.5k again. 13.2k was about my limit.

The only way I saw of improving was to change the direction I rotate my wrist. Yes, at first it was dire, and my scores dropped to around 10k. I didn't do 100% reverse-rotation, but I did quite a bit. Slowly my scores improved, and the more I tried it the quicker they improved.

One day the technique started to click. My record was 13069, and in a single session I did something like 13.5k, then 13.7k. Next session I did 13.9k then 14k. Ever since then my scors have continued to rise nicely.

I still spin in my old, original direction when I first start a Powerball, and also if I'm sitting and idly spinning away gently. Plus I can get near 14k in my old direction these days too, (though I've not tried for a long time).

Perhaps a radical change like this might be what you need? :o