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xaverr
10-09-2007, 02:34
Hi there!, I'm powerballing since 11 months and this are my records: :p

250 Hz (Speed): 13.659
250 Hz (30sec): 6.012 ( I Made it today... :D )
250 Hz (90sec): 15.985

350 Hz (Speed): 11.580 (A few days)
350 Hz (30sec): 5.129
350 Hz (90sec): 13.508

The 90sec. of 250 and 350 Hz I started doing it just a few days..., so I think that it's not to bad.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3456/imagen088envieestaapowenk0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I think that I can improve my records, I try spinnig clock ant anti clockwise and it's works a lot for me...
Today I picked a P.B. and made 13.250 with out warming up ( just made 3 speed runs because today I have to rest, but it's impossible, it's so addictive):D

Anyway I will put my future scores here...

PS: The hand grips of ironmind (60lbs) works with the powerball?
PS2: What can i do with my blister?, the P.ball don't but it's killing my fingers..., golf gloves works??
PS3: Here is a video of me doing 13.387, is not my best but a nice score for me anyway...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE3e10eAXrg

Regards!:)

Xaverr= Xavier= Javier :p :D

jihmmie
10-09-2007, 05:08
The golf glove idea might work...I tried using thin cotton gloves and no grip band one time...it solved the blister/pain problem, but it ended up being serious grip training with the low friction..

Adrena1in
10-09-2007, 07:59
Today I picked a P.B. and made 13.250 with out warming up

Hi Xaverr, and welcome. Those are some great scores you've got there, and I'm sure we'll see more to come.

Your score of 13,250 before warming up is particularly impressive. When I am having a Powerball session I always do a speed run first, before warming up, because I will usually add anything from 800 to 1,400 revs to that score when I'm completely warmed up. I usually score around 13,300 to 13,500 at first. If you can do 13,250 when cold, then I would expect you to score over 14,000 when you're warmed up!! :eek:

xaverr
10-09-2007, 14:56
Thanks boths... :)
About your post Adrenalin, you are right, was very nice see that score with my new powerball ( with the old I made 13.180) because I know that I can do more than 13.660 or something near of that al least..., so when my fingers works again, I will make other session.:D

Regards!

Javier

petemayhew
10-09-2007, 16:53
You should try doing a 'UPC' on your stronger hand. Then after this you will be ready for your, near, best scores. It's quick (Takes around 5 minutes) and propels you into hot mode faster then you could otherwise.

Note this HAS worked for me but it varies between different people...so try it out. :)

xaverr
11-09-2007, 02:31
Hi Pete, Tomorrow I will make my First "UPC", I hope that I can improve my record.

Thanks for your advice... :)

Regards!

Javier (Chile)

xaverr
11-09-2007, 21:13
Hi there, I made my First UPC this afternoon but I didn't improve my score, after I did it, I just made a few runs speed (13.250) then a few in the metal (11.000) and 5166 ( new record 30 seg. metal), after that my fingers were burnt so I had to stop. ( Actually my fingers were not very well before doing my routine, I rest just 1 day)

This were my scores:

30 sec: 5758
60 sec: 10600
90 sec: 15344 with a little help of my left (My first UPC):D
speed: 12440
= 44.142

Regards!

Installed
13-09-2007, 19:08
Welcome to the forum, xaverr. Nice scores!

xaverr
13-09-2007, 21:02
Thanks..., nice records in youtube too. ;)

Regards

xaverr
13-09-2007, 21:24
Today my golf glove arrived and with out warming I did 11.070 with the metal and 12.990 with the 250Hz, I think that tomorrow with a nice warming I will break some record :D :p

PS: I bought this Glove because I have to wait to much for recovering...

xaverr
14-09-2007, 21:45
Hi there, I improve a lot this afternoon:D :

250Hz: Run Speed: I did 13.601 ( Second Time I did over 13.6K) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj4Bmf7zck4

350Hz: Run Speed: New Record 11.761 (last 11.580) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsbqZpRAKqY
30 Seconds: New Record 5.280 (Last 5.160 or so) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB1-YZBUgPU

I made a lot of 13.4 and a few 13.5 ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnI0J9VE814 ) with my 250Hz, so I think that very soon I will pass the 13.6 K ( I hope so) :cool: :)

Regards!

Javier;)

Armitage
14-09-2007, 23:08
Congrats, good job! continue!:cool:

xaverr
14-09-2007, 23:28
Thanks!, let see who will catch 13.7 first :D :eek:

Armitage
15-09-2007, 15:02
well, i guess that will be you but i will do my best to catch up to you:D

xaverr
16-09-2007, 16:30
Heheh, I don't know, actually you are winning me for 10 rpm :rolleyes:

Monday I will see... ( next session)

PS: We have the same age ( what's your weight and height )

Regards!

Armitage
16-09-2007, 16:52
actually you are 6 months older than me :D

well im 189cm tall and my weight is 95 or so :D

i do not practice any sport (well if you count airsoft or fishing then yes..) :D

xaverr
17-09-2007, 16:11
heheh, yes I'm older..., I'm smoller too (like 11 cms) and weight like 83 kgs of pure muscle hehe :p ;) (joke)

PS: I'm very complicated with my sessions because until Wednesday, my country is celebrating its anniversary so we are out of house every day..., that's fun but I wan't my sessions too :confused: :D

Regards!

Armitage
17-09-2007, 16:18
aha, so no speed runs today? If not it's ok you'll just do it after the celebrating :cool:

xaverr
18-09-2007, 02:05
I make a little session of a few minutes :p , just 11.500 with Metal and 13.100 with right and 12.800 with letf...

Let's see on Wednesday...

PS: Pete have a new record and he is just 15 :p :confused: :eek: :(

Regards!

xaverr
18-09-2007, 05:37
I made a new session before sleep and after warming up, I did:

Regular: 13.050-13.250-13300-13.270-13.450-13.540-13.390-13.300... :)

350: 11.200-11.250-11.180-11.330-11.500...

I think that it's a very nice session for me... :D , let's see on Thursday ( my fingers have blisters)

Javier

ianb123
18-09-2007, 21:26
Hey, your scores are improving at about the same rate as mine! Maybe we can use each other for motivation to reach 14k! See you there!

xaverr
19-09-2007, 17:08
Thanks Ian, i hope we can catch the 14k this year... :D

Armitage
19-09-2007, 18:48
xaverr nice session :)

ianb123: well im actually in same stage as you two :d


you know what is strange? One my friend in CZ had 13425 rpm week ago but and after that record he didn't spin it was about a week or so and after that "rest" he did 13819 after that 14145 and after that 14154 ?! he is on Same level as me(or was week ago) and his left hand is weak at speed he cant make more than 10.5k

he had 16305 on 90 sec .. same level as me.. but that day he did 17221 :confused::confused:

how could this be? :eek:

he is spining a month longer than me but with lower intensity.

so If he can do it, than We can do it. So I'll rest for few days and after repairs on my PB's I'll try it aswell ..

ronasor
19-09-2007, 18:55
well in 90's your top speed doesnt really count... what count is endurance, mybe your faster but hes more enduranceable then you.... try with the eddo technique and dont let the ball loose it speed so like, if you know the sounds and you can pull 12k easily, try speeding up any time the ball reaches 10500

Armitage
19-09-2007, 20:34
read again, he was the exactly same as me, but now he IS damn 485 rpm faster and have 1000 more in 90 sec :confused:

xaverr
19-09-2007, 20:36
YEESSS !!! :D :D :D I made a new Speed Record... "13.885":D , I'm so happy...

In the morning made a few weight training and then a Powerball session.
First 30 sec. both hands, then with the right...
Then a few 30 sec. with Metal.
After that I started with the run speed (Metal) : 11.280-11.370-11.450-11.360-11.550-11.650-11.300...
Then with the Regular: 12.900(:( I was very dissapointed)-12.890- Then I picked up my new ball and made: 13.653-13.620-13.885:D :cool: :rolleyes: -13.400... now I have to lunch so I have to stop my session...

Anyway I'm so happy with my new record, actually 14k was not to far now...:D ( I didn't record the session this time, so there's no video)
After lunch I will put a few pictures...

Bye!!:D :)

xaverr
19-09-2007, 23:39
Hi, here is the Picture...:D :p

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/3252/imagen141zn6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

dcash10181
19-09-2007, 23:43
Congrats on your new record, xaverr! :)

14k is not so far away now. It would probably be a good idea to record any attempts you make from here on out. Your 14k could arrive at any time now. :D

Keep spinning!


Always Powerballing,
Duane Cash

xaverr
20-09-2007, 00:56
Thanks Duane ;)

Indeed I was recording all my session since a few days but now I had only 20 minutes..., that's why there's no video:o , anyway I'm glad for my record... :D

PS: The strange is that I can't pass the 13k with my Powerballs (are clean) today and when I change of P.B., I made 13.885 :confused: :D (First 13.653-13.614 and then my record)

Javier´

ianb123
20-09-2007, 01:39
You've overtaken me again! My hands are pretty messed up with blisters right now so I wont be able to powerball for at least 3-4 days. Don't pass 14k before me!!

xaverr
20-09-2007, 03:13
Hehe, I hope to catch 13.9k very soon, on Sunday I will make a new session and I think that I can improve a little more..., when I made my record I thought that It was like 13.6k, so I was very surprised... :)

keep training... ;)

PS: After many months of training, I improve. No pain, no Gain...:) ;)

Javier

Armitage
20-09-2007, 10:47
xaverr:

Nicely done! the 14 k is matter of time and few tries now :D

ESL
20-09-2007, 13:54
Congratulations xaverr!!!:) Now 14k is just a step away..;)

xaverr
20-09-2007, 16:16
Thanks both..., I hope to improve again soon...:p

PS: Now it's your time to make a new record ;) :)

Javier

petemayhew
20-09-2007, 16:55
14K will come with the correct warm up on the correct day when feeling positive and awake. Make sure you know how to get yourself into that perfect hot mode which enables you to reach your perfect scores.

I went from 13.5k to 13.7K to 13.8k to 13.9K to 14K in a week or too so it will come soon. I made a mistake in laying back off my routine once 14K was achieved, this resulted in a record that lasted for over 4 months until I broke it the other day. So when you get the 14K keep going and make sure your consistently getting 14K scores in your hot modes and this will give you a stepping stone in 14.5K (which I'm yet to reach.) :)

xaverr
20-09-2007, 20:10
Thanks for your advice Pete, now I'm resting a few days... ( I don't have pain or blisters but I think that it's better take a little rest after weeks of hard training)

PS: My girlfriend today made 9.8 k with my golf glove..., she is very close to the top 100 league ladies... :)

Armitage
22-09-2007, 17:26
so how did your session today go? :D

xaverr
22-09-2007, 19:43
Mmm..., a regular session. I did:

250Hz:

12990-13100-13300-13250-13290.... I can't pass of this scores with my regulars 250Hz , but with one of my new balls I did 13.630, that was a nice score for me... ( the strange is that is very difficult for me pass 13.2K with the others balls)

350Hz:

11.100-11250-11300-11320-11270-11180..., was not an excellent Metal session but it's ok...

PS: I made a new record in 30 sec. with my 250Hz..., I made 6.020 rpm:D (previous record 6014), improve my 350Hz 30 sec too: 5.285 ( +5 rpm :p )
and with my left hand I made 13.025 ( I made 13.192 in March, so was a nice score too)

Javier ;)

Armitage
22-09-2007, 20:13
nice :D keep it up

I can't wait for Tuesday so I will make a session tomorow in evening :D
I hope I'll break some record :D I rested 4 days.. hope It's enought.

xaverr
23-09-2007, 05:12
hehe, I always said the same :D , the problem is that I don't feel pain, but I make a little and after a few minutes the blisters and the skin start to go out :D ..., I think that I must have to rest until my skin is complete Ok, not make session if I feel pain...

Let's see tomorrow night what you will do;)

xaverr
27-09-2007, 00:37
I made a new session today, it was a Regular day for my right hand (just 12.900-13.400), with my left hand I improved a LOT..., I made 13.250-13.300-13.385( new record...//before: 13192),for me that are very nice scores. I made a video of 2 hands too, 13.284 with my left and 13.255 with my right hand.

I will put the video soon... :D Nº 16 in Dual Hand...

PS: What about your session Armitage??;)
PS2: Here is the video of dual Run... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjTJXG8gf9o

Armitage
28-09-2007, 11:49
nice job with your left :D I don't really know how my left is now because of the PB problem of which i write down here .

my session... ehm i don't own any fast PB in peak state so i can't make even 13 k with the one i got (the other is cracked and it is vibrating a lot) :( so for now I'm just practisig... like yesterday 3 hours nonstop :D. But i have a flue now so I'm not in best shape... i think I'll have to catch up to you guys next month after i get my new balls.

xaverr
29-09-2007, 00:56
Thanks Armitage..., I hope that you improve on October with some record... ;) Your package will arrive the next week??

Armitage
29-09-2007, 02:20
the stupid post office can't even deliver one stupid package :confused: I hope next week :rolleyes:

tigga
29-09-2007, 11:45
Nicely done, Xaverr :)

xaverr
29-09-2007, 22:30
Thanks Tigga...

Heheh, maybe on Monday or Tueday, your package will arrive Armitage, just be patient... :D ;)

PS: You don't have any Powerball in your home, just the broken one? :eek: hehe, I remembered when that's happen to me..., it was very frustrated that's why I have 9 P.Ball now.:p

xaverr
30-09-2007, 04:30
Hi there!!, today I did a new session and was excellent!, almost made a new record:D

I made a few minutes of the first option of Powerball ( rpm x 100), then a few minutes clock and anticlock spinning, then two 30 sec. and finally a few runs speed with my sloweerrr Powerball (It's very difficult pass the 12.8k with that), then I was ready ( best record in that moment: 12.850)

Then I made a few run speed with my Regular Powerballs (Neon and Regular) and I made like 12.900-12.980-12.850, I was a little disappointed but I knew that I make more rpm with my New Powerball, and my records were:p :) :
13.654--13.636--13739:p (First time I did 13.7k)--13.856k--13.856k again--13.380--13433--13.428--13762--13414--13353...


Then I picked up my old powerballs ( the ones that i didn't pass 13k), and a made:
13.178(neon)--13.158(neon)--13315(Regular)--13210(Regular)--13.179(Regular)
Finally I passed the record of my powerball slow (12.9k), improving more than 200rpm (13.109):p :)

xaverr
30-09-2007, 05:52
Here are the Scores of this session...:p :)



http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3396/dibujopowerballzh1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ESL
30-09-2007, 08:58
You've got some very nice scores there, xavver. you could get a new record last session you were just unlucky:)
Maybe you'llget a new record next time;)

xaverr
30-09-2007, 17:08
Thanks ESL, I hope to break my record in the next session... :)

Anyway I think that spinning clock and anticlock helps a lot...

Regards!

Javier:rolleyes:

Armitage
30-09-2007, 20:45
wow thats really nice session and so close to record ;)

next time in good mood you'll do 14 k :D

I decided to buy "a few" powerballs :D some new regulars .d

xaverr
01-10-2007, 01:19
Thanks Armitage, I hope to catch 14k or 13.9 very soon... :D How many P.balls do you have? 4?, I have 4 new regular Pballs waiting for January so I think that I will not buy for the next few months ( maybe a Siggy:p for the dark shell)

Let's see your score now... ;)

Armitage
01-10-2007, 16:12
now i have 5 balls 3 regulars 1 neon and a metal...:D

it arrived today (the metal and amber pro) im still exploring it:D as i write this i rotate it in my other hand so far only 11081 rpm:rolleyes: 11031 and plently of 10.9 so i think i can get at least to 11,3 today:D but its really something else than plastic. andi have problem with my right hand it seems to have difficulties to hit 13k..:rolleyes: i guess ill train more and it will recover:D.

xaverr
02-10-2007, 01:53
Congrats for your Metal... :p it's very strange for me because with my left I can make like 13.3k but with the Metal is very difficult to improve from 10.6-10.7 ( If I can make like 13.3 in Plastic, I should make like 11.2 with Metal);)

PS: October 8 is My birthday..., 19 Years old :D :p :cool: , don't forget it :p

xaverr
04-10-2007, 00:29
New session Today. All the scores were between 13k-13.4k and the best 13.740 :) , I hope to catch 13.9k this weekend...

Next Monday 8, is my Birthday...:p :D !!

Javier

Armitage
04-10-2007, 14:23
still four days left :D you are going to be older than me :D

hey, nice session so close to record... i think this weekend if you make an extra push you can do 14 k :D

strange i came from school and tried one speed with metal and one with plastic... started with plastic 12662 and metal 11276, ill go walk the dogs and after that wash my car as a warm up :D and then I'll try to beat my metal score :D


anyway you can do 14 k i think that jump over 100 rpm is nothing and i had bigger jumps i think you had also so if you really try and with some luck you can do 14 k before your birthday :D


Good Luck! Thumbs Up!

ESL
04-10-2007, 14:31
Hi xaverr,:)
I think after a hard session a rest for a day is always welcomed, so i think if you rest for a day or two then i'm sure you'll be able to get a score over 14k.:D
I used this technique a while ago: i was powerballing really hard though i couldn't reach my goal(10k i think) but after a day resting i managed a score about 10.3k.:)

PS:nice scores;)

xaverr
04-10-2007, 16:04
Thanks Boths...;) , actually I rest more than a day..., I rest like 3 days because my fingers have a few blisters so I can't make a great session with that things...

Anyway, I recommend you to buy a Suregrip or liquid magnesium..., that helps a lot to have dry hands. :)

PS: I don't know why but my score with the Metal are going down..., this week I made like 11.150-11.300, but my Plastic score are improving.

PS2: I Made 13.4k with my Left... :p

Regards!

ESL
04-10-2007, 16:46
PS: I don't know why but my score with the Metal are going down..., this week I made like 11.150-11.300, but my Plastic score are improving.
Hi,:) :) :)

That's what's happening to me too.I think this is because your muscels behave differently when using the metal/plastic so these days i've been using the plastic so your arms aren' used to work with the metal.Though i don't know if somebody had on one day good scores on both:confused:

xaverr
04-10-2007, 17:11
I think that when you do a lot of Plastic session, your muscule and movement are faster, so when you change to the metal, (the technic is different) you make the movements faster than the Rotor is spinning :rolleyes:

xaverr
05-10-2007, 00:05
New Session today..., I should rest today but I can't wait.:D

After a few minutes of warming and a couple of 30 sec, I made:

With the New Powerball:

13.571--13.224--13.334--13.775--13.555--13.652--13.611--13.711--13.717--13.547--13.850--13.293--13.556--13.550--13.498--13.202

With the old One, I did just 1 try...: 13.393

I was very near to my record, I think that I will try again on Saturday...:rolleyes:

PS: I clean my new Powerball and now it's slower, why that's happen?, I hope that it come back like was before cleaning(After clean and spinning a few minutes at 10k, I just did "13250":( )

Bigzebra
05-10-2007, 11:07
Nice scores! With a lil bit of luck you should break your record very soon!

P.S: my res is 1280*1024 and your post doesn't even fit entirely, maybe you should put a space between your scores? (at least one in the middle)

Armitage
05-10-2007, 14:40
Very nice session again but rest at least one day :D dont overdo it :)

ESL
05-10-2007, 18:29
Hi,:) :) :)
Very nice session you did xaverr you were almost were you wanted to be and i'm sure soon you i'll pass 14k;)

Hope i'll catch up soon:D

PS:Try and use it more and on high speeds,maybe you over-cleaned it:p and it needs to be a bit rough again.:D

Installed
06-10-2007, 15:16
Very nice record Xaverr, you'll be passing me up in no time. (seems everybody is nowadays)

Armitage
06-10-2007, 15:57
Installed: maybe in speed but no frickin way in Endurance! :D you will lead there for a long time i guess

xaverr
06-10-2007, 20:35
Thanks to all for the comments ;) , I hope to catch 13.9 today.


Installed: maybe in speed but no frickin way in Endurance! :D you will lead there for a long time i guess

Hehe I agree with Armitage, in endurance 6.500 is a very high score for me:)

Armitage
06-10-2007, 20:37
today? whats the time in your country? heres 21:37

xaverr
07-10-2007, 00:17
When I write "Today", was 5:00 PM (or so). No new record but a few nice scores... ( it's look like in your country is 5 hours more)

After 15 minutes of warming..., I made:

13.369
13.059
13.411
13.337
13.505
13.544
13.722
13.603
13.526
13.580
13.535
13.764
13.510
13.480.
13.582
13.653
13.224
13.271
13.442
13.461
13.262
13.124

I think that I will rest until Tuesday..., my fingers are dead, full of blisters and holes :(

Armitage
07-10-2007, 10:16
these are pretty nice scores i wish to have same on 250Hz :D, yeah rest will surely help. GL on Tuesday

edit1: Hey tomorow is your birthday :P

xaverr
07-10-2007, 19:12
Hehe, I hope to improve my score on Tueday, before my best powerball become more slow...:D

PS: Yes, tomorrow October 8 is my birthday... :cool: 19 years old :D how do you know it?

Armitage
08-10-2007, 14:03
Happy Birthdayyyy!!!!!!!! :D I wish you many powerball achievments :d like 14 k plastic and 12 k metal very soon :D:cool:

ESL
08-10-2007, 14:08
Happy Birthday xaverr:D :D :D Wish you lots of new good records;)
Try some runs today maybe it's your lucky day:)

Armitage
08-10-2007, 15:06
ESL: he should rest today :D

ronasor
08-10-2007, 15:17
Happy Birthday :) :D :D
tell your parents to get you another pball as a gift xD

Bigzebra
08-10-2007, 17:59
Happy birthday Xaverr!:)

What did you get for your birthday?

I hope you'll soon get new records, but don't forget to enjoy your life :p

xaverr
08-10-2007, 19:22
Thanks to all for your post...:D ;)

Today I will rest, I need to recover my fingers.., they are all dead...

Heheh, don't worry Bigzebra, today I will celebrate with my family and girlfriend, on Friday a party, on Sunday a barbecue in our countryside house and the Yesterday and Last Saturday, I celebrated a lot... :D , so don't worry, I think that I have a life hehe

Anyway thanks to all for remember my birthday;) , it's a nice forum with great people:o .

Let' se on Tueday or Wednesday if I will have a nice session ( I agree with Armitage, today I must rest), anyway I spin a little one of my new Powerball, because it's to slow. Now it's ready to make a nice session on Wed.

PS: Heheh, my family said that I have 9 Powerballs, so they bought me a lot of cloth and other things...:)

Thanks again to all for said: "Happy Birthday" ;) :D

Regards!

Javier

Armitage
09-10-2007, 19:50
hi, how did your session go today?

xaverr
10-10-2007, 00:17
Today I just made 3-4 runs speed because I was a little busy and I prefer to rest my hand..., the scores were 12.960-13.040-13.080-13.100..., without warming or something like that. Maybe tomorrow I will try. ( this is a week full of test:( in my studys..)

xaverr
10-10-2007, 23:34
Today I made a quick session, about 15 minutes of warming (reading post:D ), then a few runs with my bad balls and then a few with my new and half new balls. The scores were:

13.370-13.250-13.400-13.220-13370-13425 (New Left record)-13500...

Then I stopped because I have a pain in my arm (when I open the arm, so I can't make the right movements)

Anyway was a nice session considering that my arm was ill...;)

Armitage
11-10-2007, 13:53
nice session :D I hope that I will have session like that soon too :D

ESL
11-10-2007, 14:15
Pretty good session xaverr:D Keep it up and soon you'll get a new score;)
Same as you Armitage;)

xaverr
12-10-2007, 02:29
Thanks..., the proble is my arm. It's still hurting me a lot, I can't open my arm 180° :(, I think that I will rest a few days, that's pain means something.

Armitage
12-10-2007, 13:44
hey, i know exactly what you mean!!! That happend to me few days ago when i was powerballin with the Beast ball(metal). But it looks like i didn't overdo it like you i tried spinning plastic with my arms 180° it helped.

ESL
12-10-2007, 15:44
No,on this i disagree with you Armitage:)
xaverr,i think the solution for every pain is resting:D

Armitage
12-10-2007, 15:49
i was spining slowly :rolleyes: and i did it after the metal run when i felt pain i did this for several minutes and the pain was gone :D

xaverr
12-10-2007, 22:22
Is more than a little pain Armitage, i think that is the tennis elbow..., I must rest this week or I will have several Problems with my amrs in the future sessions...:(

Armitage
13-10-2007, 10:13
hmm, then gl in recovering!

LTLFTC
13-10-2007, 11:59
No,on this i disagree with you Armitage:)
xaverr,i think the solution for every pain is resting:D
Good advice, I think a lot of pain is from tendon pain. Autoplus said once that muscles condition very fast compared to tendons. So you have developed this new skill that your tendons aren't quite up to yet. I have a really sore right elbow that is taking ages to get better. It was from weights not powerball but it affects my powerballing. Tendon injuries are way way easier to prevent than to fix.

xaverr
13-10-2007, 16:08
Thanks..., I agree with you LTFC, I need to rest a few days more..., anyway I feel a litlle lesspain in my arm without powerballing...;)

A few minutes ago, I found the movement that make me the pain. When I put my arm 180º and move my hand like if I was opening a door (left right), my elbow bown make a little crack and I feel the pain..., what Can I do?, any advice?, I put muscles pain creams and I'm not doing weight training or Powerballing... :(

Armitage
14-10-2007, 21:31
Good luck with your recovering ! i hope it wont take too long !

xaverr
15-10-2007, 00:58
I don't think so Armitage because today I have less pain, I think that muscles cream and with a week or rest, I will be Ok again...;)

Regards!

xaverr
19-10-2007, 04:16
Hi there..., my elbow is still a little injured, but I did a few runs anyway...:p , without warming, just putting liquid magnesium I did:

13.199--13.210--13.143--13.672--13.204--13.286--13.545--13.355--13.371..., then I stopped because I don't want to give to much work to my elbow. Considering that I didn't warm up, and with a non 100% elbow, 13.672 is very nice for me.

PS: I miss the 30sec. endurance, I think that it's to much for my elbow..., just a few days more( I can't rest more than a few hours, I make little session every day:p :o )

Regards!

ESL
19-10-2007, 12:23
Hi xaverr:)
13672 with a not fully-recovered arm and no warm up is very good:D :D :D I bet when you come back 14k won't be a problem for u.:)

Armitage
19-10-2007, 16:07
yeah i agree nice scores:D

xaverr
19-10-2007, 21:47
Thanks Both:D , I hope so too (catch 14k soon)... The problem is that for me is very difficult not make a session for more than a few hours, today and tomorrow Saturday, I Must rest if I want to recover but is very hard..., this little ball is very addictive:mad: :p I think that I will try to train my left arm:D

Regards!

Javier...

ronasor
19-10-2007, 23:55
mybe intentionally break your pball and send it for repairs, then youll get new one and have higher scores :D
me and my criminal thoughts.... :rolleyes:
mybe somtimes painkillers help although they reduce energy...
I had a highscore session once I took a pill and powerballed mm... about an hour later I had highscore of 11320 with my techno...
few tries the next day I had the highscore im currently standing at, 11480.. just have a minimum of 5 minutes per day so you wont "forget" the technique and your scores will start falling like mines :( .

Have Fun & Good Luck,

Ron

xaverr
20-10-2007, 03:39
LOL, indeed you have criminal thoughts :p hehe

I'm so stupid, I made a little session today, and made like 10 run speed with my bad arm. The Lowest was 12.700 and the Higest 13.280. The problem is that my elbow started to hurt again... (sound like a clack when I move my arm) I really really need to rest, or this problem will be cronic:(

PS: Give me force Yoda to put my P.balls far far away!:p

ESL
20-10-2007, 10:10
Hi xaverr,:)

I know it's really hard but you have to rest till you've fully recovered because you may have problems later on and never powerball again:eek: (have u thought of that?):)

May the force be with you :p :D :p

xaverr
20-10-2007, 18:42
I know ESL, I think a lot about it..., never spin my Powerballs again, or make arms exercises...:( :mad:, I will rest all the next week. (My elbow feels a little better because yesterday night I slept with a bandage and put a lot of muscle pain's creams...):) Anyway, I won't make Powerball, don't matter if I feel better (a few days ago I was OK, but pain come very soon after a few full sessions), I will rest a full week:( :)

Regards!

Javier

ronasor
21-10-2007, 07:30
mybe let it to your mom or somone from your family to hide it and tell them by the specific date never let it out no matter how hard you ask... thats how youll recover without having to worry of finding it... unless youll start a myhem at your house for searching it ;D

xaverr
21-10-2007, 17:02
Hehehe, it's not necesary..., I understood that the only person who loose with that is me. If I make session with my Powerball, I will be the only affected, so I won't touch it until next weekend...:rolleyes: :)

Regards!

Javier

Armitage
21-10-2007, 17:52
Yeah i hope so, really don't hurt yourself more ;)

xaverr
21-10-2007, 23:59
LOL, I saw your video of 13.669 again..., nice Poster in background :D

Armitage
22-10-2007, 13:46
yeah, good times :D scores over 13.4 were easy at that time :D

xaverr
22-10-2007, 21:55
Maybe was the girl in the wall who helped you...:D , do you have a girlfriend?

Armitage
23-10-2007, 16:03
nop :rolleyes:

xaverr
23-10-2007, 22:24
LOL, probably if you will have one, that poster will die (or maybe you):D ;)

xaverr
24-10-2007, 00:43
Today I made a few runs speed with both hand...:rolleyes: :) , my elbow es better, not 100% but it's Ok to make a few runs( And I put a elbow protection), I made:

Left Neon: 12.600-12.640-12.700

Right Neon: 12.680-12.800-12.900
Right Regular: 13.275

I think that without warming, just cleaning my hands, 13.275 is a very very nice score. I hope to make a Normal session this weekend :o :)

Regards!

Armitage
24-10-2007, 14:18
Can you just REST? FOR at least a WEEK?...

xaverr
24-10-2007, 22:01
I rest 4 days... :( , a full week is to much time, now I will rest 3 days more... :D :p

xaverr
25-10-2007, 02:57
TOday I made just a little session, and it's great because I didn't feel pain after that...

without warming, just run speed....

Left: 12.650
Right: 12.600--12.900--13.197--13.060--13.250--13.330--13.410--13.280...
Metal R: 11.180--11.050-11.260...

i'm very happy because my elbow looks much better, I think I will make a complete session this weekend, with warming and all the correct things ...:)

Regards

Armitage
25-10-2007, 23:15
ehm... nice session but you really should rest :rolleyes:

what will you concentrate on after you heal? on 12 k metal or 14 k plastic? :D

xaverr
26-10-2007, 04:54
Mm..., I preffer to work with my 250Hz, anyway Metal is a nice way to warm up. Today, without warming, I did with the Metal:

R: 10820--10890-11040-11.250-11.170-11.570-11.260...
L: Best 10.450

With Plastic, just 1 run: 13.100 (I didn't make much noise because was like 1 A.M. in my house...:p )

Let's see the scores of Weekend...:)

PS: Definitely I want to improve my 13.885 to 14k, than 12k with Metal...

Regards!;)

Tstering
26-10-2007, 09:31
Greta to see the scores coming bac up to form. I'm sure you'll be hitting 14,000 in no time.

xaverr
26-10-2007, 23:58
Hi there!, today Friday I did a new session... :p

After warming up a few minutes reading some powerballs threads (low speed), I make a 30sec. Metal Run, and I made a new record: 5323:D :p :cool: ,after that I tried with my 250Hz 30 sec., and a new record again: 6.217 (with a neon), then I started with the run Speed...

First, a few run Speed with Metal:

11.300--11.697(less than 100 rpm of my record)--11.476--10885(new Left Hand Record:D )--11.566--11.300--11.250--11.390...


13.561--13.423--13.500--13.405--13.350--13.602--13.477--13.403--13.215--13.169--13.063(Left Hand)--13.285--13.412--13.858(wow!!,just 27rpm less than my actual record)--13.199--13.233--13.394--13.474--13.659--13.473--13.314(Left Hand:D )--13.475--13.591--13.303--13.260--13.311--13.390...

After all that session was pass like 2 hours..., I was exhausted. I'm very happy because looks that my Left hand is improving again, 13.3k is very nice for me, and Improve my 30sec (Metal and Regular) and also did a score very very near to my current record, so now I will rest until next week, so let's see what will happen... :D :p :cool:

PS: Thanks Tstering..., I hope to catch 14k this year, maybe tomorrow I will upload a video, I think that I need more pulsing in my body, almost all the scord I did it just with my wrist and a little of movement (With my left hand I make pulsing to catch 13k+...

Regards to all!!;)

Regards!

ESL
27-10-2007, 06:39
Wow:eek: Very good session xaverr.:D Congrats with your scores and lets see 14k not this year but tomorrow;)

LTLFTC
27-10-2007, 10:22
Nice session Xaverr, I can be three days between 13.4k top and 14k top so keep up the good work. There is no telling when you might hit a hot streak.
Here is the 14k vid you wanted

14000rpm on the dot 250Hz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvbYziXAIzI)

Armitage
27-10-2007, 11:32
awesome session xavier :D if you make similar session next time you really might hit 14 k :D

xaverr
27-10-2007, 15:40
Thanks to all for the comments!;) :D , I hope to catch 13.886 soon..., today I have a little of elbow pain, but just a little..., considering how I was the last week, this is nothing, and I will rest 2-3 days, so I will be OK soon again...

Thanks for the video LTLFTC, but I noted that all your video have the sound change... (comparing with the image):) , anyway thanks a lot!;)

PS: In a few hours more I will upload the video of 13.858, and you will said If I made pulsing...:confused: maybe my technique is to strange..., I put my arm to the top :D

ESL
27-10-2007, 16:13
Hi LTLFTC:)
How do you pulse like that :eek: :confused: I only shake my arm.Did you practise on doing that or did came on it's own naturally?:confused:

xaverr
27-10-2007, 20:50
Video of 13.858 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3JtnN4GvGk

then I did... 13.659

Video of 13.659 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzyDOBd-mfM



I think that my pulsing is really bad, I only move my arm, not my body..., and I think that I have the strenght to do much more..., give my some advice to improve my pulsing please. :D ;)

Regards!

LTLFTC
28-10-2007, 13:47
Hi LTLFTC
How do you pulse like that I only shake my arm.Did you practise on doing that or did came on it's own naturally?
Dam hard work:D:D. And I'm still working on it. I need to reduce my movement and focus the energy into the ball more I'm still all over the place
Thanks for the video LTLFTC, but I noted that all your video have the sound change... (comparing with the image):) , anyway thanks a lot!
Some days Youtube the sound is fine more often thatn not though it is out of sync. I don't know if it is because I have background music or not

xaverr
28-10-2007, 17:09
Hi LTLFTC, I noted when I put music with the same PC that I'm recording (at the same time), the sound will be very bad, that's why I put music from other PC or Radio...

WHat do you think about my pulsing?, I think that it's very bad...

Regards!;)

xaverr
28-10-2007, 18:51
Today I should rest, so I did just a few runs speed, without warming:

12.800--12.890--12.815--13.070--13.090--13.440--13.290--13.275...

13.440 was with Adrenalin Advice..., with the arm 180° and only doing strengh with the shoulder(pulsing), I think it was a nice little session...:D ;)

I'm training for the tournament that will be in November in my Country( I hope that this time they won't postpone it)

I think that 14k+´is just a matter of time. In March, 12k was like 13k is now, so I just need to keep spinning it and 14k+´will come ...

Regards!

ESL
28-10-2007, 20:26
Totally agree with you xaverr;)

LTLFTC
29-10-2007, 05:52
Hi LTLFTC, I noted when I put music with the same PC that I'm recording (at the same time), the sound will be very bad, that's why I put music from other PC or Radio...
I'll try that ta

WHat do you think about my pulsing?, I think that it's very bad...Regards!;)
I have found as my technique improves that I am beginning to understand pulsing better. I will try and describe it.

When you just spin your wrist around it is like you are putting energy into the ball for the whole circumference of the wrist rotation. If you want to go faster you have to monster the ball for the whole wrist spin.

Now imagine instead of rotating your wrist, lock it and simply shake it back and forth. As this gets faster you will feel that the ball wants to get away from you. Doing this it is my feeling that rather than inputing energy into the system for the whole circumference you can do it at the end of each push and pull of your shake. I hate to use the word resonate because you are trying to stay just a head of the ball, but thats what it feels like, so I guess pulsing is a good word.

I liken it to riding a bike without your feet strapped to the pedals all you can do is push. If your feet are strapped i you can push on the way down and pull on the way up. Imagine doing this with the powerball. When I do this I feel there is way more potential to go faster without necessarily being stronger. If i'm just rotating my wrist I feel I have to be stronger to go faster and I don't feel like I can.

Now within that technique try and use your whole body to to it.
Imagine throwing a punch.
Stand still lock your shoulders and just punch with your arm. Slow and weak right.
Now lock you hips and throw the punch with your shoulders and arms faster and stronger.
Now through the punch from your hips through your shoulder into your hand
really fast and really powerful.

The other good part about using your core is that the muscles of your arm can be loose. A fast punch isn't tense it is only tense at the impact point. Bruce Lee likened a good punch to a chain with a ball on the end, loose and fast with one hell of an impact.

Try to do this with your powerballing. use your arms and hips and core to shake you hand back and forth and pulse. I find simplyt rocking my hips with no extra effort on my arm will add a huge aount to my score.
Ultimately coordinating all this together will be pulsing.

Having said that I'm only up to 14206. I don't know how much holds true as you get higher.

Hope this makes senses and is helpful:)

xaverr
29-10-2007, 21:37
Thanks a lot for your full explication:D ;) , I think that I will practise your technique on Wednesday.

Thanks again...;)

PS: Try to make a new video with the advice that I gave you...

xaverr
01-11-2007, 22:06
Hi there, just a little update.
After warming I made:

350Hz: 11.482--11.331--11.437--11.537

250Hz: 13.481--13.290--13.370--13.269--13.350--13.358--13.372--(DUAL:13.305 L/13.175 R)--13.417--13.321--13.428--13.358--13.409--13.542--13.804--13.606--13.427--13.257--13.245--13.353--13.268--13.305...

13.5k, 13.8k, 13.6k and 11.5k (Metal) were with my new technique..., is like Pako when he did 14.6k with his Screamer..., I improve like 400 rpm after that. When my fingers heal, I will try to improve a little more that technique because 13.8k was not with much difficult...:)

Regards!!

Installed
01-11-2007, 23:25
Awesome scores you're getting Xaverr. You definitely have the potential in you to go much higher - just keep up the good work, always looking for ways to better your technique. Good explanation on pulsing by Robert too, sounds right on.

ESL
02-11-2007, 14:29
Nice scores xaverr:D I'm sure quite soon a new record will knock your door;) :D

xaverr
02-11-2007, 15:42
Thanks Both!, I hope that too... even I know that I can made a new record, but when I did 13.8k I went to the kitchen and my brothers started to tell me what they did in halloween and the problems of a concert they went and others problems in a Restaurant..., I was just listening and when I want to start again, I was in a cold mode...:( :p

Regards!

xaverr
02-11-2007, 18:36
Oh, I'm so glad!!!:D what I said yesterday was true..., that new technique is mucchhhhh better than the last. After a shawer, I did(without warming):

13.060
13.290
13.800
13.692
13.562
13.560
13.615
13.505

That are great scores for me, specially because I didn't warm up, just with dry hands..., tomorrow I will make a full session. I think that tomorrow I can pass 14k!!! :D

Installed
02-11-2007, 18:52
Whoa! 13800 without proper warmup is crazy good. 14k is no problem for you dude. :cool:

ESL
02-11-2007, 19:07
Lets cross our fingures for tomorrow then;) :D Erm... what's the new technique you use? :confused: (if you don't want you don't have to answer:o )

RyuKa
02-11-2007, 19:45
Lets cross our fingures for tomorrow then;) :D Erm... what's the new technique you use? :confused: (if you don't want you don't have to answer:o )
with my new technique..., is like Pako when he did 14.6k with his Screamer


I suppose that it's like that :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44HqWLrHUpg
:)

xaverr
03-11-2007, 01:20
Thanks to all!!, let's cross our fingures for tomorrow lol:p , and you are right RyuKa, my technique is very similar of that video... Pako was my inspiration :p :D

Regards!

ronasor
03-11-2007, 01:30
congrats for the scores :D
I didnt understand anything from the video hehe the grip the rotation... nothing :D!

Armitage
03-11-2007, 12:00
go xaver go!! You can make it :D

xaverr
03-11-2007, 22:07
Today's session was very nice..., considering that 2 days ago, 13.4k-13.5k was a verrry good score.

After warming up I did:

13.300--13.500--13.600-13.580--13.450--13.720--13.620--13.570--13.560... ( the rest was between 13.4-13.7k):) no New record, but I noted that my arm, my fingers and legs are very tired for the exercises of yesterday, so maybe on Tuesday I will make a new session.

I think that I can do much more. Yesterday when my muscles were warm, I did 13.8k (without Powerball warming, just weight), so on Tuesday, after a weight training and a Powerball warm up, I hope to make at least 13.890
:D :p

Regards!

Armitage
03-11-2007, 22:30
nice session!! i had nice session today myself :D you are very close to 14 k :D GL

ESL
04-11-2007, 07:30
Very nice session xaverr:D Don't worry, if you continue like this you'll finally get a new record;)

LTLFTC
04-11-2007, 08:57
Nice work Xav, your a just one spin away. My record went from 13.5 to 14.1 in one spin and I still can't tell the difference between 13.7 and 14k. Just hold it that bit longer and think faster.

ronasor
04-11-2007, 09:29
Nice :D
when I get sessions with records that are close to my highscore I wont give up, try giving 150% of your powers even if it will hurt your hands, no pain no gain :D hope youll get to touch the 14k asap :P

Regards,

Ron

xaverr
04-11-2007, 23:19
Thanks to all for the nice comments..., it's very confortable read that...:)

Let's see next week..., i know that I can improve a little more, that technique it's much more confortable for me. Thanks Pako!!

PS: Nice Avatar LTLFTC :D
PS2: Next session I will upload some video...

Regards!;)

xaverr
08-11-2007, 02:28
Hi there, just a little update:

* Now my elbow is 100% OK...

After warming up I did:

13.313--13.353--6.195 (30 sec. L-R hand)--13.312--13.642--13.707--6070 (30 sec. R hand only)--13.481--13.472--13.358--13.717--13.493--13.490--13.459--13.449--13.596--13.429--13.561--13.404--13.507--13.381--13.364--13.332--13.310--13.524--13.597--13.626--13.443--13.588--13.372--13.285..., then I was to tired and a blister appeared in my ring finger..., but after 30 run speed I think that it's normal...:)

I hope to make a new session on Saturday...

PS: It's strange that the other day after a shawer I did 13.8k and now I made just 13.7k... :confused: :rolleyes: , anyway was a nice session...

Regards!;)

Tstering
08-11-2007, 09:26
A very solid session there. Certainly should build on that.

ESL
08-11-2007, 15:12
Nice session xaverr:D And don't worry if you continue like this you'll surely get a new record:)

Armitage
08-11-2007, 15:43
Very nice session i would be happy to hit one 13.4+ :D you did get more than a dozen of them :D

What hand did you use?

xaverr
08-11-2007, 16:01
Was with my right Hand..., with my Left my best score was 13k

I thought that I can make 14k because the other day I made 13.8k without warming up.
I think that the problem was that I'm a little sick, I can breath well and my body don't feel very well, indeed I didn't went to class today:D

What about your scores Armitage?

PS: I think that I will buy other Hand grip from Ironmind. When I read 60 lbs I thought that It was a lot, now I see that it's not difficult. I can close it like 1 minute without problem..., #1 or #1.5?, Which one will be better...?:rolleyes: , I now that this little things help a lot, because after I make a few reps., my grip and scores improve a few hundreds, let'see what'll happen with a more heavy gripper

Regards!

xaverr
12-11-2007, 02:11
Just a little update:

After 2 minutes of free Powerballing, I made 30 sec., then:

13.133
13.550
13.569
13.577
13.537
13.588
13.570
13.659
13.462
13.381

The Orange record were with a Powerball a little slow because I cleaned yesterday...

Was a quick session, maybe if I'll make a longer session I will see better scores, it was all in 15-20 min.
I try to not kill myself because I want to recover the blister of my fingers...
Also I'm trying to improve my new technique, because 30 sec. is very difficult with that tech, are a new kind ot muscles, so I'm trying to train more that ones... (triceps shoulder and back I think...:p )

Regards!;)


----edit----

In the night, I made a 30 min. Metal Session. After 2 min. free spinning:

30 sec: 4880--5150--5250--5230...

Run Speed (R): 11.316--11.629--11.687--11.548--11.570--11.416--11.428....
(L): Just 1 try: 10.499... :p

Armitage
12-11-2007, 16:18
hey nice session!! 13.5+ :eek:

after your blisters heal i guess you will be joining the 14 k club :D

no session on my side :/

Tstering
12-11-2007, 16:20
Nice little session there, onwards and upwards to 14K now.

ESL
12-11-2007, 19:04
Good session xaverr:DThough I think that if you try a longer one you'll get much better scores:D ;)

xaverr
13-11-2007, 03:45
Thanks to all!!:) , today I try to make a session again, but my fingers were to tired yet, the Metal session of yesterday killed my fingers:D anyway, I did 6.150 in 30 sec. Regular..., best Regular score 13.280

Now I will take a few days off;)

Regards!

xaverr
14-11-2007, 01:29
Hi there!, after doing a body training with weight, I made a 30 min. Powerball session... (my fingers are a little better, but not in a 100%)
After 1 minute of free spinning,and one 30 sec. Regular run, I did:

13.309
13.201
13.443
13.379
13.208

------- Until here, my score were with my hands to the floor, I try to change my tech again, like Hakan-Wahlberg and my score improve a lot....:D :p ----------

13.762
13.496
13.775
13.857:p Very near to my record..., just 28 rpm
13.834
13.466
13.416
13.837
13.295
13.605
13.665
13.362
13.426
13.409

Then i decided to stop because 1 blister of my middle finger is not very confortable..., now I will try to rest until Friday or Weekend.:)

Regards!

jihmmie
14-11-2007, 04:41
hey Xaverr

Rest up, I'm trying to plan a session for this weekend too....first to 14K???:D

Installed
14-11-2007, 13:57
Great session, Xaverr. :cool: I've had a couple good sessions following weight training, but for the most part it makes me too slow.

You may want to try mixing a one handed 30s in with your speed runs here and there, that helps me alot... although theres no telling, we're all built differently.

Armitage
14-11-2007, 15:49
So close :D Next sess you definetely hit 14 k :D

ESL
14-11-2007, 17:14
Very nice session xaverr:D 14K is very close;)

xaverr
14-11-2007, 21:42
Thanks to all for the comments.... ;) , today I didn't make any session (was very difficult, to vicious this little ball)

I will try your advice Installed, a 30 sec. endurance between the speeds, and I Accept the challenge jihmmie :D , let's see who will catch 14k first (Maybe in February we will catch that scores:D :p )

PS: Just 2 weeks more and Summer will start in my school (with 3 months of holidays:cool: :D )

Regards!

Installed
16-11-2007, 19:59
PS: Just 2 weeks more and Summer will start in my school (with 3 months of holidays)
I know how that works, but it just looks funny! Here, the temperature is dropping and we've even got a little bit of snow. :p Not to mention that school is in full force.

Good luck with your next session. :cool:

jihmmie
17-11-2007, 01:15
Same here, except I don't quite know how that works. School's in full swing and the average temperature has dropped about 20 degrees here.

Hopefully though, Javier, we'll be able to catch those scores before the month of February!

xaverr
17-11-2007, 11:40
20 degrees less??, in my country, the Temperature is around 25°C...

Yesterday I did a 30 min. session ( I was a little tired for the school)

After a few 30 sec. (all around 5950-6000) I did:

Regular:
13.486
13.442
13.350
13.429
13.394
13.332
13.361

Metal:
11.390
11.622
11.597
11.505
11.451
11.570

It was a Regular-Bad 250 Hz session, but the Metal score were very nice for me...:)

Regards

Armitage
17-11-2007, 12:13
I think it is still good solid session your plastic scores were good also!

xaverr
17-11-2007, 19:24
I wanted to catch Jhimmie, so I made a new session...:D :rolleyes:

After weight training:

13.320
13.606
13.489

After a few 30 sec., I did: (1 Hour and 1/4)

250 Hz Score:

13.455
13.620
13.513
13.513
13.672
13.349
13.598
13.483
13.553
13.605
13.433
13.469
13.221
13.335
13.290
13.239
13.349
13.348
13.480
13.733
13.554
13.716
13.566
13.459
13.641
13.764
13.729
13.683
13.520
13.542

350Hz Score:

11.435
11.607
11.410

9 times over 13.6k, 17 time over 13.5k, that's a great session for me...

After more than 30 run speed with my Right hand, and considering that yesterday I did like 20 run speed too, my fingers are DEAD...:o, now I'll rest until Tuesday or like that...

Regards!

Tilnoom
17-11-2007, 19:54
Nice consistancy there mate. Well done!

Tils.

Armitage
17-11-2007, 20:12
damn, thats a nice session :D if u keep this up you will surely hit 14k.

Installed
17-11-2007, 20:28
Great session Xaverr. I usually dont to 30s to start with; I personally prefer a more gradual warmup, with some 30s runs thrown into my speed runs every 5-15 minutes

xaverr
18-11-2007, 07:09
Thanks for the comment. I like to do 30 sec. endurance, but always after a few minutes of free spinning (and I don't give all my energy in the first 30 sec :D , don't worry...), I hope to catch over 13.8k next week...:)

Regards!

ESL
18-11-2007, 08:29
Very nice session xaverr:D And aim for more i'm sure if you can get 13.7k constantly, 14k won't be very difficult;) :D

The Force
18-11-2007, 12:49
Way to go mate...at this moment you are an example to follow for me as well. My plastic technique is so bad that my average scores lies around 13300 these days, which is only 1000rpm below my record :o :o .

Regards,

The Force

xaverr
18-11-2007, 15:55
Thanks to the comments.

I think if you spin a little more with your Regular Balls, you will catch better score very soon Force..., the tech with 250Hz and 350Hz are not very similar.

Regards!:)

The Force
18-11-2007, 16:11
I'll do my best.

The Force

jihmmie
18-11-2007, 19:15
hey Javier,

You may want to try a fast target warm up followed by resting before you make your speed runs...just a suggestion.

Try spinning 3-5 30s with both hands with no break inbetween. Afterwards, rest for a minute or two and clean out the debris from your powerball, put it back together, and try making as many speed runs as you can before your score starts to decline a lot. Take another rest, clean out the debris, and then give it a few more power runs! That's how I did it to break 13.3K, and I've been following/tweaking the warm up ever since (now at 14.0K).

Let me know how it goes!

Armitage
18-11-2007, 20:20
How much force do you put in those 30s runs Jihmmie? About the cleaning when i clean the ball its not that fast as it was before.

jihmmie
18-11-2007, 21:14
I try to put as much into the 30s as I can. I think this forces my arms to warm up quickly (preserving energy) as opposed to gradually (loss of energy).

How do you clean the inside? I just remove dust from the internal wall and wipe off debris that is on the track (bits of support band which have come off), as well as the dust/lint material that may be stuck in the support band's axle holes and blow out (with breath) the dust/lint material around the washer housing. The debris should make it less smooth (slightly lowering the performance) on the tracks and especially in the support band/washers/axle area.

xaverr
18-11-2007, 22:09
I'll try this Jihmmie. Anyway I use other Powerball for warming, so it's not necessary for me to clean it in middle of the session (I entered in a cold mode). 3 30 sec. endurance,rest a little, after that a few run speed until be dead, then another break and finally try to make a new record...,let see next week what'll happen...:)

PS: Today I had to rest, but I try to make just a few run speed after a shower, with out warming:p :

12.809
12.750
12.850
12.950
---- Then I change to my best Powerball----
13.450
13.290
13.550
13.590..., then I stopped or my hand will be useless for next week session.

Regards!

Armitage
18-11-2007, 22:15
hmm, I do pretty same thing as you but not so often as you. I do this "big" cleaning every 3-4 sessions. Depends on a ball. For the track cleaning i use cotton applicator with some medical alcohol (the alcohol cleans all the dirt and debris and it instantly dries out). Well the ball is so clean after my cleaning that it takes some time to run in again (the performance is much lower)

jihmmie
18-11-2007, 23:00
Really? I usually use the inside of my cotton shirt or some paper-towel (napkins, serviettes, hand towel, etc).

Armitage
18-11-2007, 23:13
I've learned that from the people in distributor company of powerballs in Czech. They clean them like that. :o

jihmmie
18-11-2007, 23:20
Alcohol swabs will dissolve any grease or bacteria. There isn't need to disinfect the tracks, but getting rid of the grease is a good idea! In that respect, it should speed up though with increased friction shouldn't it? How and how often do you clean your support band/washers?

xaverr
19-11-2007, 01:27
I don't use alcohol anymore, it takes to much time to recover the speed of my balls again. I usually clean them every 10 days or so. It's not neccesary clean them every day, why you do that??? :confused: , if you do that, when your balls will be in a high speed???:rolleyes: I just clean them when I noted that are doing more noise, when I knew that I have used them a lot, or when I see dust in the shell...

Regards!

jihmmie
19-11-2007, 01:58
Really? I've been cleaning them practically with every session (Sometimes more than once) and I've been hitting new records with almost every session in the last 3 weeks:confused:

[Sometimes I think the debris-free tracks in combination with the amount of time I rest when cleaning is the reason for the scores]

ESL
19-11-2007, 18:07
I clean my powerballs when i see they've become VERY dirty i.e. once a month:p :D

xaverr
19-11-2007, 19:49
with the amount of time I rest when cleaning is the reason for the scores]

Indeed when I rest to much, I enter in a cold mode, so I don't think I will clean them in middle of a session, I rest just spinning very slow, or spinning the other hand, but never in a chair, fixing the powerball...:)

xaverr
20-11-2007, 03:06
Hi there, I think that I'm a little stupid with Powerball..., it's so addictive for me that I can't rest even 1 day!!, I make session almost every day. I think it's because I see every day this forum, and always are nice session to read(I want to make session after that), so Today I have a session of 1 hour and 20 minute...

I made 5 times: 30 sec: 5750--5890--5850--5500-5350 (like Jihmmie said)

then the score were:

13.315
13.402
13.186
13.501
13.616
13.504
13.466
13.672
13.641
13.368
13.380
13.410
13.405
13.378
13.487
13.482
13.401
13.550
13.250...

I know that if I don't rest my muscles, I'll never improve my scores. I hope to catch 13.8k again soon...

PS: It's very frustrating, a few days ago, I made 13.8k-13.6k, with out much problem (without warming), but that magnific technique flew away now...:(

Regards!

LTLFTC
20-11-2007, 03:38
Hi there, I think that I'm a little stupid with Powerball..., it's so addictive for me that I can't rest even 1 day!!, I make session almost every day. I think it's because I see every day this forum, and always are nice session to read(I want to make session after that)
I know what you mean. I suck at resting as well. I'm trying to steel myself to take a week off and let my hands and arms recover but it is so dam hard. My session last nights should be good incentive though it really sucked.

jihmmie
20-11-2007, 05:03
Haha, Javier,

Those look like my scores from my session last night! I think we are just looking at rest as the big issue...which you have already address is a darn hard thing to achieve with this crazy addiction...

dcash10181
20-11-2007, 06:35
Hi there, I think that I'm a little stupid with Powerball..., it's so addictive for me that I can't rest even 1 day!!, I make session almost every day....


I know exactly how you feel. In my first 3 months with the Powerball, I had a session almost every day...except Sunday.

The daily sessions help me improve quickly for awhile, but soon scores really started to "level off" somewhat. My fingers were getting worn, never really having a good opportunity to heal much from the previous session.

As much as I like to Powerball, I finally found a good incentive to rest at least a few days. Just before I hit my first 15k score, I found that I was experiencing even better improvements when I actually rested at least a few days from a heavy Powerballing session. I started to see the real value of rest. Rest actually helped me to rejuvenate enough to push a little harder in the next session.

Currently, however, I have found myself again in a bit of a rut when when it comes to my 250Hz scores. Recent obligations with work and school are placing me into more of a maintenance phase with only one session per week. I still get many 15k+ scores during the session, but my scores have not exactly been improving in great leaps lately.

Hopefully, I will be able to go back to a 3 or 4 session/week routine again soon. I just finished a rather tough term at school, and I hoping for a bit more my time to be freed up soon for more intense Powerballing! :)

Never underestimate the power of a single day of rest. Certainly the Powerball is something you want to do every day, but that rest can actually do wonders for your scores.

Go for 14k! :)

Always Powerballing,
Duane Cash

xaverr
20-11-2007, 21:15
Thanks to all for the comments, I really appreciate...

I know that I can improve a little more if I rest my muscles and hands, and after reading this post..., I'll put my Powerballs away for at least 2 days. Today I didn't make a session, so I need just one day more...:p :D

PS: I hope that you can make more session soon Duane, just 1 per week for a person like you it's not tu much...:) ( I think that you are one of the person who really loves doing Powerball)

Regards!!

dcash10181
20-11-2007, 21:23
...I hope that you can make more session soon Duane, just 1 per week for a person like you it's not tu much...:) ( I think that you are one of the person who really loves doing Powerball)


You are quite right, xaverr. I have been itching to fit in some more sessions during the week. Work, school, family, and church have been filling up so much of my time recently.

I will get back into more sessions per week soon. Even with one session per week, I am glad that I have seen improvement at least in my Metal scores. :)


Always Powerballing,
Duane Cash

xaverr
21-11-2007, 02:48
I hope to see more session about you soon, where is the video of your Signature run speed??... :)

PS: What are you studying??

Regards!

dcash10181
21-11-2007, 21:06
...where is the video of your Signature run speed??... :)

PS: What are you studying??


Hi Xaverr,

I have the Signature run video on my computer hard drive. I will put it up on youtube sometime around my next session if you are interested in seeing it. Perhaps I will attempt a better Signature run record on my next session. ;)

I am studying Information Technology (Management of Information Systems) in school.


Always Powerballing,
Duane Cash

xaverr
22-11-2007, 00:54
It will be great see the Siggy flashing white at 15k :D
Information Technology ??, nice..., I'll study business next year, the next week is the last one in my school, I'll graduate...:) :o


Regards"

xaverr
22-11-2007, 01:28
S**t, I press the buttom to go back..., all again:rolleyes: :)

First of all, today I should rest, but after cleaning all my Powerballs, I decided to make a Session. My last session was Monday afternoon, so now, Wednesday afternoon, have passed 2 days...:D :p

After a few run speed in cold (12.8--12.9--13.1), I made a few 30 sec:
5990--6105--6208(7 rpm of my record)--6227, new Record!! :D

Then a few runs speed with my Blue Light (I cleaned it today)
13.584
13.362
13.512

Then with a regular:

13.656
13.343

A 30 sec: 6281 (second time hitting new record in 30 sec. today)

13.275 (blue light)

Regular:
13.645
13.737
13.659
13.503

30 sec. again: 6200

13.583
13.532
13.651
13.470
13.487
13.349
13.629
13.370

Metal:
11.510
11.696
11.598
11.660
11.635
11.565
11.790 New Metal Record!!!

Regular again:

13.565
13.290
13.180...

After all this session, I was dead, it's very hard to writte this post indeed...:p

I'm very happy with that score, and for passing 3 time my record: 2 times at 30 sec. and 1 in the Metal...:D :cool:

Last session the best was like 13.670, now my best was 13.737, I hope to catch some 13.8k next session...

Here some videos: :D

Powerball Light Run Speed: 13.594 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6RbFVnk4RM

Powerball Endurance: 30 sec, 6281 rpm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P3ixIsWehI

Powerball Run Speed: 13.737 rpm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpYt_vjDleo


Metal Run Speed: 11.790 rpm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks9M6KXV8cI

PS: A big post eh?? :p

Regards!!

Javier

jihmmie
22-11-2007, 02:14
Wow Javier! I guess it does all come down to rest. Too bad you didn't get a need plastic speed record--although I can see why... Another 2 days now? I haven't powerballed since Monday night, I will probably wait another 2 days or more as I don't feel 100% yet.

LTLFTC
22-11-2007, 05:49
Nice 30's action there. Are they dual hand gripper or one hand??
PS don't answer that i just watched the video

xaverr
22-11-2007, 18:53
Thanks both!!, I think that I can make a little more in 30 sec..., I didn't make a endurance since a lot of time, so the last 6 sec, are very difficult for me, so I'll work on that the next few session...

PS: Do you think Jihmmie that I need more days for rest?, I think that after the last session, I will need until Saturday or Sunday, it was a really intense session for me. I want to see some 13.9k there!, 1 year of constant spinning and not 14k yet?, I'll give up...:) :o

Armitage
22-11-2007, 21:20
Nice! you had a very nice session a metal record and a close run to your plastic record + 30s record :D Keep it up!! fingers crossed for the 14k :D

hugh495
22-11-2007, 21:49
Thanks both!!, I think that I can make a little more in 30 sec..., I didn't make a endurance since a lot of time, so the last 6 sec, are very difficult for me, so I'll work on that the next few session...

PS: Do you think Jihmmie that I need more days for rest?, I think that after the last session, I will need until Saturday or Sunday, it was a really intense session for me. I want to see some 13.9k there!, 1 year of constant spinning and not 14k yet?, I'll give up...:) :o

not sure if this is a good idea or not,but what i have tried doing is after a session do loads of push ups,untill you can barely do one. that way you can feel the muscles ache over the next few days,when the aching is gone then surely the muscles in your forearm will be fully rested?
nice scores its amazing with such endurance my arm is too tired after a 30s run
13.8k should come soon i expect

xaverr
22-11-2007, 23:02
Thanks for the comments... :)

Mmm..., I don't thing so. In my case when I stop doing the powerball session, is because my fingers are completely dead, so a pull up will be imposible...:D My problem is not my muscles, I thing that I have a very nice endurance with that (for the Weight lifting), so the problem are my hands... (Was a session of 2 hours and 20 minutes, now are full of blisters and little muscles of fingers pain)

Regards!!

jihmmie
23-11-2007, 04:36
Wow Javier,

If you are pushing your hands THAT harshly, a few extra days of rest is definitely good...afterwards, maybe see if you can find some good gloves (golf, football/soccer/rugby, raquet sports, etc)...that way you can put that energy 100% into the gyro rather than losing 20-30% into pulling back dead fingers which are full of blisters?

Wish you luck!

ESL
23-11-2007, 13:41
Very nice session xaverr and congrats for the scores:D You had a nice hot mode though i think if you had a rest that day today you'd get even better scores;) :D

xaverr
24-11-2007, 01:04
Hi there!, thanks for the comments...:)

Jihmmie..., you didn't see my videos eh?:p , the new Metal Score was with a golf glove, it help me a lot when my fingers started to hurt (I use liquid magnesium too)

My blisters are 99% recovered, so tomorrow Saturday I will make a New session, after a little warm up with light weight lifting (like Installed said)
I'll be glad If I see a 13.8k tomorrow...

PS: I agree with LTLFTC about your video Jihmmie..., when you improve your pulsing(shoulder), 14k+ will come...:o :D ;) (wait for me please!!):D

Regards my friends!!;)

jihmmie
24-11-2007, 03:36
Ah, haven't seen the video yet but will have to make time to do so. You use magnesium AND gloves?

I'm not sure about pulsing-shoulder techniques yet, haven't ever explored anything like it yet...

I'll wait for your 14K, but no guarantees!

xaverr
24-11-2007, 03:41
lol, 1 minute is not much time Jihmmie...:p, I use liquid magnesium when I'm not using gloves, when my fingers are more tired, I use the glove...

Let see what'll happen tomorrow, now I'll sleep, Im very tired..., next week are the last days of school, I'll enter to the university!!:o :eek: :rolleyes: (I'm a little sad with that, much remembers)

Regards!!

jihmmie
24-11-2007, 08:32
Had anther session tonight, no luck. Didn't do a proper session (other things on my mind/things to do/things happening), but I walked away with 13.5K Max, minimum of 11.9K, and mostly hit around 12.4K. It was probably a combination between too much rest and being too busy with other things...

xaverr
24-11-2007, 21:56
Hi there, today's sessin was Ok but the last one was better..., now I improve a little more: 13.739 (on Wednesay like 13.735 :p ), but on Wed., 13.6k was more constant...
Today was a 2 hours session:

Regular: First 3 without warm up, 13.4k was a great score, but I didn’t improve to much…
13.405 (I thought that 13.9 will be easy..., in my case I never improve too much between cold and hot mode, just like 500-600 rpm:confused: :o )
12.938
13.222
--------------------------------------
Regular:
5885 (30 sec.)
6106 (30 sec.)

Light:
13.469
13.484

Regular:
6272 (30 sec: Clocksize )
13.040(LeftHand)
5320 (30 sec: Anti-clocksize [RH])
13.420
13.563
13.526
13.565
13.444

Light:
[B]13.684 ( NEW RECORD!!! last record: 13.615) à on Wednesday
13.362
13.547
13.388
13.496

6022 (30 sec. Regular)

Metal:
11664
11.499
11.190
11.415
11.583
11.374
5015 (30 sec. Metal)

13.200 (light)
13.109 (light)

Regular:
13.610
13.435
13.694
13.307
13.739
13.615
13.128
13.290
13.561
13.190
13.590
13.210
13.521

PS: 11.9k??, that is a extremely cold mode, try to make more session but more light, maybe a week of rest was to much too...

Regards!

Armitage
24-11-2007, 23:36
hey good session :D your speed is really good these days!

ESL
25-11-2007, 16:12
I agree with Armitage:D and i think that if you continue like this soon you'll get 14k;) :)

xaverr
27-11-2007, 01:38
Hi there, today I should have to rest my hand, but after doing a weight lifting, I try a little with the Powerball (I want to see just 1 run, in cold mode without warm up):

First: 13.290 :confused:
13.380
13.400
13.599:confused: :eek:
13.343
13.721 :confused: , no way!, without warming??, I heard a sound very high :rolleyes:
13.324
13.356
13.086
13.299
13.306
13.477
13.330
13.293
13.433
13.475
13.270
13.088 (LH)
13.521
Then I continued with my weight training..., anyway was a 20 min. intense session, without Powerball warming. I think that I'm improving, slow but improving...:)

Regards!

ESL
27-11-2007, 16:44
Nice session xaverr:D
In my case i usually see better scores before warm up.Don't know why:confused:

Installed
27-11-2007, 17:31
You definitely are gradually improving, Xaverr. Those arent really bad sessions at all.

By the way, I don't usually warm up with weights, it just happened to work for me that time, you should try some different types of warmups from day-to-day. Have you tried warming up with plastic endurance only? There have been times where I absolutely killed myself on endurance then made a speed record afterwards... although not all that often. How about starting with 1 minute endurance on each hand at low speeds for at least 15 minutes, where you feel plenty of burn but dont completely wear yourself out. Then start working yourself up to some 30s runs, and ultimately a speed session.

xaverr
28-11-2007, 00:35
Thanks for the comments...

Actually I try weight training (just with very light weight, for not overtraining the muscles), then a few minutes of low speed, then a few 30 sec. and then the speed, just like you post, but yesterday I tryed a new type...:D ;) (thanks anyway)

Regards!

Armitage
28-11-2007, 22:53
you are having constant 13.4+ scores lots of them every session :D

i would be happy for just one :D

Keep this up! :cool:

xaverr
28-11-2007, 23:56
Thanks Tim, buy now that I improve a little more my tech, I want better scores, 13.8 will come soon again...:D

PS: I bought a Techno and a Screamer yesterday...:p :rolleyes: :cool: :D

Regards!!

jihmmie
29-11-2007, 00:43
Hey Javier,

I hit a 13.9 yesterday. So far to date I've only ever hit 13.9 twice and 14.0 once, though I have a handful of 13.6s and 13.4 I cannot remember ever hitting a 13.7 or 13.8...weird.

xaverr
30-11-2007, 04:37
I really want some 13.886+. I'm training a lot for that. Saturday'll be my next session...

My 2 Powerballs, my 2 Handgrips (N°1-1.5) and a pedometer, are travelling to Chile now... :)

Regards!!

jihmmie
30-11-2007, 08:23
Chile? What are you doing in Chile? Out of curiosity, what's the altitude change?

xaverr
30-11-2007, 15:15
What I'm doing in Chile?? :D , here I live Jihmmie..., and it's a nice country (a lot of peple think that CHili is just the food:rolleyes: )hehe, what do you mean with the altitude?, I'm in ocean's level...

PS: I want to make a session tomorrow,but i'm a little nervious, on Monday and Tuesday I have test (is a test for all the students that go out of school, and if you have a nice mark in those test, you can choose better university...., I don't know if you have those test in your country, is a test for all the students of the Country: The PSU, in english: "UST" University selected test...:o )

Regards!! (Yesterday was my last school day):o :rolleyes: :D

xaverr
01-12-2007, 19:51
A quick update:

After 15 minutes of light weight lifting (to warm up), I made:

30 sec: 6028 (L+R)
30 sec: 5900 (R)
Then, after a few minutes of rest...

13.366

13.544(Neon)
13.611(Neon)
13.304(Neon)
13.753( NEW NEON RECORD)
13.712(Neon)
13.687(Neon)
13.550(Neon)

Regular:
13.669
13.645
13.432
13.667
13.570
13.757
13.491
13.733
13.736
13.350
13.646
13.611(Neon)

Metal:
11.693
11.661
11.676

Regular:
13.350
13.621
13.527

16 Records over 13.6k (incluiding Metal scores :p ), that's a nice Session for me!! (Was a 1 hours and 20 min. sess)

Regards!!:) ;)

ESL
01-12-2007, 20:00
Very nice session xaverr:D Congrats for the record:) Try and rest for a bit more than your usuall rest and i'm sure you'll brake and your other record;)

Armitage
01-12-2007, 20:09
wow thats a score with neon :D i thought neons were at lest 1% slower than regulars (1-5%) which means you could have smashed your record. I don't get it. nvm. Awesome scores in all session!!! way to go!!!

Edit1: btw. thans for the tip i will order the N°1 next week

xaverr
02-12-2007, 00:43
Thanks!!, I hope to break a new record soon... (like all of us I think:D )

I know that the Nº1 for you will be ok ;)

Regards!

jihmmie
04-12-2007, 19:04
Congrats on your new record Javier! I gotta start picking up the pace or you'll soon "run over me" (was this a polish expression or was it a different language?).:D

P.S. Do you have any videos yet? When I made my 14055 I scrambled afterwards to make a video f the 98%...make sure you have videos ready!!!

xaverr
04-12-2007, 19:11
Hi there, today all my test were over. Now I have 3 months of holydays!!, nice eh???:D Today after the test, I want to make some records, so started a new Session:

First of all, a little of weight lifting, to warm up the muscles
Then a 30 sec (without Powerball warming) 6.271!!,10 revs less than my record. then 6.208 and finally 6.170 (my 30 sec. are improving)

After that I made:
Regular(The slow one: To warm up and 30 sec.:) )
13.420
13.302

Neon:
13.630
13.487
13.221

Metal:
11.527
11.560

Regular:
13.389
13.416
13.541
13.735
13.692
13.486
13.320
13.539

Metal:
11.663
11.418

Regular again:
13.437
13.806
13.863 (New record with that ball)
13.848
13.494
13.738
13.952 (Second record with that ball, and my actual RECORD!!)
13.470
13.311
13.353
13.666
13.544
13.581
13.364

oh, and a new LEFT RECORD: 13.539!! (and a lot of 13.3k),and I Upload the picture of 13.790 too xD (for the ranking, to improve...,0 place :p )

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2862/yodespuesdelapsumate139rb4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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Regards!!!!

Tstering
04-12-2007, 19:13
Great session there. 14K is SOOO close now.

You need to reduce the size of those images though. They are FAR to big.

xaverr
04-12-2007, 19:22
Thanks!!!!, I'm so happy with that new record, I know that I'll catch 14k this summer..., hhehe, I hope that you pick up the pace too Jihmmie,to compete again.:p ( I lost anyway, you catch 14k first), and I don't have a video yet, the cable of my notebook is dead, so the battery turned of..., and the cell phone have no battery too, so I just picked a picture...:D


LOL, both of you posted very quick. After I saw the images, I edit the pictures in 3 minutes, and both of you have posted... :D

ESL
04-12-2007, 20:25
Many congratulations again xaverr:D Agree with Tstering 14k is very close so don't let us wait ;) :D

xaverr
04-12-2007, 20:29
Hehe, thanks ESL, About 14k..., I hope so too :D

Regards!

Armitage
04-12-2007, 23:22
congrats so cloose!!! Next time for sure!!!

xaverr
04-12-2007, 23:31
Thanks Tim..., what about your scores??:)

LTLFTC
05-12-2007, 00:40
Well done. Honestly I can't tell the difference between 14.1 and 13.8. So it could be just one spin away. Go for it!!!!

Armitage
06-12-2007, 09:35
Thanks Tim..., what about your scores??:)


rubish as always, doesnt mean i will stop :D

ESL
06-12-2007, 17:15
That's the spirit Armitage;) Try out those UPCs, they really helped me;) :D

xaverr
06-12-2007, 20:21
Yeah, I agree with you ESL, over 13k and just a few months, are nice scores...:)

Armitage
06-12-2007, 20:55
don't say its nice :D it's just not enought!! i was over 13 k after 3 weeks (13.3)

xaverr
07-12-2007, 05:45
Yes, but a lot of people have the same problem of you (I made 13.2k 5 weeks after start, and then I was a few months catching 12k to 12.9k), soon your arm and muscles will be ready to make 13.5k in each session...

Regards!!

The Force
07-12-2007, 09:16
A quick update:

After 15 minutes of light weight lifting (to warm up), I made:

30 sec: 6028 (L+R)
30 sec: 5900 (R)
Then, after a few minutes of rest...

13.366

13.544(Neon)
13.611(Neon)
13.304(Neon)
13.753( NEW NEON RECORD)
13.712(Neon)
13.687(Neon)
13.550(Neon)

Regular:
13.669
13.645
13.432
13.667
13.570
13.757
13.491
13.733
13.736
13.350
13.646
13.611(Neon)

Metal:
11.693
11.661
11.676

Regular:
13.350
13.621
13.527

16 Records over 13.6k (incluiding Metal scores :p ), that's a nice Session for me!! (Was a 1 hours and 20 min. sess)

Regards!!:) ;)

What strikes me is that your current plastic scores are higher than mine, while my current metal scores are higher than yours.

How can this be explained?

regards,

The Force

ESL
07-12-2007, 14:27
Hi:D
Force, the technique of the metal is quite different from the plastic.:)
So maybe you're better with the metal and xaverr with the plastic:)

Adrena1in
07-12-2007, 15:53
Hi:D
Force, the technique of the metal is quite different from the plastic.:)

Funny, my technique with the Metal and Plastic is pretty much the same.

ESL
07-12-2007, 15:57
In my case they are quite different;)

The Force
07-12-2007, 16:51
I also think that in my case they are the same.
For some reason I am able to apply more torque at lower revs, but I am not able to reach the required pulsation speed at higher revs.

The Force

LTLFTC
08-12-2007, 01:27
Funny, my technique with the Metal and Plastic is pretty much the same.

Same, I often do dual runs with a metal and a plastic. It feels to me as thought they are doing the same rate but the plastic will be 13.xk and the metal 11.xk so obviously they aren't

xaverr
08-12-2007, 03:59
In my case, I use the same force and tech. For me, 11.660 Metal, are 13.660 with Plastic, and they are very similar... (for example: best Metal score in a session: 11.700, best Plastic score: 13.800..., just a few revs of difference:) ) Anyway, a few weeks before, the history was very different. Metal score were a lot under the Plastic.

Regards!!:D

Armitage
08-12-2007, 12:08
when i did my three 12 k spins in same session i did only 13.2 plastic

ESL
08-12-2007, 16:23
When i was in form i could easily get 13.5k in plastic but only 10.5k in metal.:o For me, is impossible to mix up metal and plastic in a session.:o Now I can only have a full-metal session or a full-plastic session:)

xaverr
08-12-2007, 20:56
No..., I can mix both of them. Anyway, I use a glove sometimes, because if my fingers starts to feel pain for the metal, the Plastic scores will go down, so a good glove to protect them is ok...;)

DIc. 9 will be my next session..., today was my graduation.:D

xaverr
09-12-2007, 19:22
Today I made a session of 90 min.

After a little of light weight lifting, I did 13.150
Then a few 30 sec:

6.298 (Record)
6.354 (New record!!:D )
6.265

Regular:(the slow one)
13.662 (New record with my slow Powerball..., the one I use to warm up)
13.563
13.456
13.443
13.585
13.431
13.399

Neon:
13.429
13.404
13.346

Metal:
11.750 (-40 rpm than my record):D
11.643
11.715
11.658

Regular:
13.334
13.380

I think that was a nice beggin, but when I want to use my Fast Powerball, my fingers were a little tired, and the Wounds of them started to hurt... I think that my Powerballs need a little fix too, I didn't clean them since 3 weeks :D :p (Anyway, the worst score was like 13.350, that is not to bad for me:) )

Regards!