weight lifting

[ESL]

Hi everyone,
I'm new in here and ijust wanted toask if weight lifting helps us to get those high scores

[petemayhew]

Well to a certain extent yes, but you have to keep in mind that powerballing is really to do with building up fast-twitch muscle fibers..for them high scores. If I'm correct weight-lifting does the opposite (It doesn't..EDITED) which makes you more slower when using the ball. I should think it's a bad thing for long endurance. :)

Thanks Autolupus

[Autolupus]

You're wrong Pete! Weight training mostly recruits fast twitch fibres.
Endurance is slow twitch!:)

[jihmmie]

...so which does kinds does weight lifting target then?

[Autolupus]

An excerpt

Lifting weights in excess of 60% 1RM
The heavier the weight, the greater the number and size of fast-twitch motor units recruited. A weight in excess of 75% 1RM is required to recruit the largest units

taken from:
http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/fast-twitch-muscles.html

[Realnils]

If you are training for high speed scores, it is proven that some thirty second runs will release the biggest amount of growth hormones, because this quite closely mimics the the sort of stress you put your arm through a normal workout.

that means when it comes to weight training it takes about thirty seconds to preform a set of lets say 8 - 12 repetitions, and it is in that space which as i said before will release the biggest amount of growth hormones.

Some individual speed runs is great too, don't get to hung up on the 30 second thing.

[Armitage]

I must agree with pete, the weight lifting might slow your speed down but it can help your endurance.


and, certain person Tim Bridle (Adrenalin) said:

" weight and strength aren't really major factors here. I've seen or heard of body builders struggling to get 12k, yet take a look at Thomas Guicheteau, a 15k Powerballer, and see how slim he is "


by this he meant that you don't need to be 2 meters tall 115 kg heavy guy to have high speed :cool: It's all about training and determination, if you have time and you belive in yourself you can achieve high scores. For me its now 14k and when i do 14 k I'll do my best for 15 k. And after it i will see :D No Pain No Gain.

If anyone disagree with me just write it down here, i will gladly accept all opinons.

[petemayhew]

Just a quote from Akis.


You are probably not that strong in ordinary life, but in powerball reality you are pretty strong (to the effect that your muscles and body have been trained properly and are "regulated" to the demands of powerballing, so you exploit your physical strength efficiently).

This backs up Armitage's point of not having to be a 'muscle man' to get high scores.

I've just started doing weight training actually. There's a gym at my school and me and some friends go a lunch-break. Just like to ask if thats a good idea..it's for only about 30 minutes, once or twice a week. Also could anyone recommend a little routine for 30 minute period. As I'm usually lost and it normally just comes down to who can bench press the most weight, which I know isn't at all good for me. :p

Cheers

[jihmmie]

I'm with you on that one Armitage,

I first powerballed 3.5 years ago, then lost my powerball, and just picked it up again recently.

When I first got it, my score was 12 050 peak rpm, now when I picked it up again I hit 12 532. There's some mystery as to what happened in the last 2 years of no powerballing to allow this improvement (growth, other sports, etc), but it is a slow pain and a slow gain.

Even with concentration on grip, strength, endurance, power, its a slow process that can only be accelerated by determination :D

[xaverr]

In my case, I mix powerball with body exercises and weight machines... Mix them right and you will have goods improves in the 3 things :) :cool: :p

[ARZG]

A body builder struggling to get 12k and a slim person getting 15k? wow I'd like to see the science behind that- not that I don't believe you, it's just that it doesn't really make any sense at all. Theory: The only reason I can figure is that the body-builder can't move their arm quick enough purely because of that fact that their muscle mass in their arm is too heavy. They can lift very heavy things but when it comes to speed they are not good at it.

It is the same with someone who has too much muscle mass in their legs and they are in a 100m race losing to someone with less. They cannot run fast enough even though the muscle is very strong. However, when it comes to anaerobic exercise the one with too much muscle mass will win- such as lifting heavy weights with your legs (no time limit).

However, this will only happen if you have to much muscles mass corresponding to your height- the taller you are the more you can be capable of having with efficient use.