Help me get in the 12k's

[gigabyte137]

Hi all,

I am 32 years old and just got into powerballing a week ago and a week ago a struggled getting past 9000 and couple days later 10k and now a week into it I am at 11k constantly with a best of 11,678 and wanted to get into the 12k's but can't.

The way I do it is I keep my whole arm flat against a table or my knee and just use my wrist to get the scores. I cannot find a way to keep my arm loose and not supported on something to get over 11k.

Any advice on getting my arms or shoulder into it to get some higher scores would be greatly appreciated.... Maybe a video or something?

Thanks all and have fun powerballing.....

[Tilnoom]

Have you been powerballing every day? If so, give it a day or two to let your arms fully recover.

I'd also suggest doing 30s and 90s endurance runs for a few days, rest, then do a record attempt. Rest really is more important than you think :)

Tils.

[redplunger]

Hi gigabyte137,

Tilnoom is right, I have found that a good rest and then some 30s 60s endurance runs before I go for a speed run really make a huge difference to my score.

I too was stuck at about 11.7K for a week or so then I had a couple of days rest followed by a good warm up and 3 or 4 30s endurance runs, my arm was really pumped and then I went for a speed run and broke 12K !

I'm currently resting from a back injury, if not I'm positive I would be in the 13Ks now.

Take it easy on yourself, you have probably just hit your natural level and now you arm needs to develop strength and memory of the movements before you can move on, all of which need rest and training to accomplish.

I would say try and change your spinning, endurance runs are good but I read here somewhere about 20,30,60 minute runs where you record the revolutions in that time frame. The change stops your muscles from going stagnant and helps your strength and speed to develop.

For homework I would check out youtube and of course the top 400 vids on here to help with your technique.

Keep spinning and enjoy your new toy !

[Tstering]

You will need to complete ditch the technique you are using to get much over 12K. As you get into 12K+ territory you are using your whole arm and not just your wrist.

I know you said you can't get over 11K without your arm supported, but there was a time you couldn't get over 11K with your arm supported. It is just a matter of pratice.

If you want to progress i'd sugeest don't do any more runs with a supported arm as 12K will be your limit, maybe 13K if you were amazing.

[gigabyte137]

Just to let you all know, i am constantely in the 12k's now and I think it was just rest that did it and a strong grip.... Also I am not supporting my arm as much and feel the whole arm getting into it... Now on to the 13k's as my highest is now 12,768.... Thanks all....

[Tstering]

Cool, well done. As you are now pushing 13K you will certainly be using more and more of your arm and shoulder, so the less it is restricted the better.

[gigabyte137]

For 13k+ should the elbow be locked in place and just barely move wrist and a lot of shoulder or what kind of advice could be given to surpass 13k...

[Adrena1in]

Nice progression to 12.7k, considering you felt you were stuck at just under 12k for a while.

I found 13k to be a huge barrier to get over, but again, it just takes time and practice really. Very few people can just change their technique and make big improvements in a single go...you need to train your muscles.

I find the 90s endurance mode is great for getting into shape before a session, but in the past, to make big improvements, I found even longer endurance sessions helped. 20 or 30 minutes, or an hour even! :eek: What I think it does is train the muscles to make as little movement as possible, so that rather than making circles with your wrist/arm, you make little twitch movements back and forth, usually referred to as "Pulsing".

Once I get over 13,000 I find my whole arm is tensed up, and I sort of oscillate my shoulders back and forth. I don't consciously move my hand, but drive the Powerball from my shoulder.

Everyone's technique is different though, and you'll find yours will just change over time.

Good luck.

[gigabyte137]

When you say "you make little twitch movements back and forth" do you mean you dont do small circular movements with wrist, just forward and back with no circles?

[Tilnoom]

That interpretation sounds pretty much spot on to me... but then I'm not that high up yet (and probably won't ever be, hehe!)

Tils.

[Alastair V]

When you say "you make little twitch movements back and forth" do you mean you dont do small circular movements with wrist, just forward and back with no circles?
When I get scores of 14k, i've noticed that my wrist doesnt move at all, its all from the shoulder, moving my arm up and down, and elbow movement as well.

[petemayhew]

I've also noticed I just pulse my arm back and forth now, instead of moving my wrist round in circles. Don't deliberately do this, just keep it in mind. If you do it straight off you'll get no-where. Slowly introduce your arm in over a few sessions then your technique will have time to adjust.

[Adrena1in]

It basically just happens...as Pete says, I don't think it's something you can force. Your wrist will be making a circular or elliptical motion, because the force from the Powerball will cause that to happen, but your muscles will just be twitching back and forth.

Best way I can think of to describe it is this...don't spin the rotor, but hold the Powerball in your normal grip, and grip it tight. Tense all the muscles in your arm, right up to your shoulder, (and even your opposite shoulder), as much as you can, and you might notice your arm juddering back and forth a bit. That's the sort of feeling I get when I'm "Pulsing".

[gigabyte137]

Can someone demonstrate in detail maybe their grip and rotating style and arm movement and everything that is needed to get over 13k in a video or an easy step by step or something. The way I do it is holding the pb on the counter in my palm with 4 fingers on bottom and my pinkie curled half way up and just pushing on the grip. Then after about 11.5k I start circling my arm (not stiffly) clockwise and can get to no more then 12,900. A video will be best but I'm sure a lot of people would like to see a step by step video of proper technique in a video... Anyone care to do this for us that is over 14k or so? Thanks all...

[gigabyte137]

Well just 5 mins ago I finally did 13,017.... Im in the 13k club after 1 month of ownership. Of course that was after a 30sec run and then 60 sec run and waiting 5 mins... So now I like to change the topic to help me get in the 14k's...Have fun powerballing...

[Buttered Ball]

Gratz there.
I'm 34 & i also just managed the 12k club recently & hope to progress to get it more often then finally join you in the 13k club.

[gigabyte137]

Just to let you know I do it at work with my coworkers heavily every other day. I also do about 200 pushups a day as well and it took me about 2 weeks to go from 12k to 13k... The best way to improve is to do 30 and 60 runs and maxes with friends and bet money. It really motivates you in bettering yourself. Have fun as always...

[Buttered Ball]

If i powerballed @ work i'd probly get the sac lol
I cant do the pushups as my fat beer gut gets in the way:o
I will try the 30's 60's & 90's as i still havent properly tried them out since i started PB'ing :o

[Adrena1in]

I also do about 200 pushups a day ...

Blimey! I was tempted to put myself down for a free one-hour "Marine Style" training session, which mentioned doing push-ups and squat-thrusts and stuff. I thought to myself, "Wonder how many push-ups I can do?", and after 10 I was feeling the strain already.

I really should do more than just occasional Powerballing though...my arms are in great shape, but the rest of me isn't! :o

[plaz0n]

Hi to all members here,

I've same problem as some members here. I did achieve 11337 rpm, but now i cannot get even close. My best achievement was 10700. I've read some threads and find out that scores over 12k or even little less, are requireing ditch technique or something like that. I don't know if i get it right.
I've watched few videos and i canno't understand how to do that in order to improve score. I know that you mustn't do that on deliberate, because score won't be even near as good as it should be without it. But i really don't understand how to learn it. I just listen the sound of the powerball and i know that i'm not even near of my record.

Thank you for any advise!


Greetings,


Aleksander ;)

[Adrena1in]

Hi plaz0n.

Do you ever do the 30s, 60s and 90s Strength Index? Do them one-handed, almost as fast as you can, so that your muscles really scream at you to stop. After a little rest you may find your technique then tightens up a bit, and allows you to achieve slightly higher scores.

It was how I improved the quickest at the beginning.

[plaz0n]

I admit that i don't, but i do exercises from AKIS. Will also give it a try and also include this exercises. But from what i read for scores over 12k whole arm should do the work and wrist almost shouldn't move, or something like that if i'm correct.
But it's difficult to do, cause most of people do that on purpose which isn't even good enough for scores over 12k but even worse.
Will give it a try and also include 30,60 and 90 strength index.

Thanks, Adrena1in ;)

[Salle]

I admit that i don't, but i do exercises from AKIS.

Hmm ... self contradicting statement. :)

If you do Akis exercises right you are doing extreme 30sec runs when all your body screams to stop.



But from what i read for scores over 12k whole arm should do the work and wrist almost shouldn't move, or something like that if i'm correct.
But it's difficult to do, cause most of people do that on purpose which isn't even good enough for scores over 12k but even worse.

It has been said already, but the thing is you can't properly explain that technique and you can't really train for it. It comes with time and practice eventually. And it's all about rhythm which comes from your entire body not arms only.

I tried "pulsing" for months without any success until I realized I'm actually doing it. Whatever "it" is. Just found big difference between my left and right hand in that respect. With left I still can't find the proper rhythm. With right it's not a problem every time. Any attempt do do it deliberately fails. So .. patience and persistence are the keys.

[Koman]

Just practice, practice, practice...and then practice even more.