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Adrena1in
17-08-2006, 11:44
Okay, so I've just received a submission to the Dual-Hand scoreboard, but unfortunately the chap didn't quite grasp the rules...he did a Dual-90-second Strength run! Quite impressive in itself really, and all that energy expended only for me to have to reject the score...shame. :o
But a Dual-Hand-90-Second scoreboard might not be a bad idea really. I know I can't control this, but if people want to post their scores in this thread, if we get enough we might be able to get yet another scoreboard approved. (I'll correlate the scores into this post, starting with the chap who sent his score in.)
1. Installed = 33688 (16891 right + 16797 left)
2. LTLFTC = 33048 (16580 right + 16468 left)
3. Adrena1in = 32281 (16216 right + 16065 left)
4. GILPI = 28844 (15593 left + 13251 right)
5. petemayhew = 28299 (14237 right + 14062 left)
6. Tstering = 28119 (14393 right + 13726 left)
7. Iaruru = 26555 (13741 right + 12814 left)
8. Weee = 24854 (12779 right + 12075 Left)
9. Mark Nykamp = 23772 (12168 right + 11604 left)
10. Millenwagon = 19434 (10002 right + 9432 left)
I'll sticky the thread for a few days so we can see what kind of interest we get.
Enda
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Millenwagon
17-08-2006, 12:54
Yeah i didn't quite get that it was just 2 top speeds totalled together, the 90 second dual run was really hard but as i got a score close to the scores on the dual run leaderboard i gathered that they were 90 second runs aswell. Well i think it'd be good if everybody had a go at it, was certainly a good challenge for the least! :D
donkapone
17-08-2006, 13:24
well i`d really compete in all dual runs but i only have one powerball
Installed
17-08-2006, 14:32
As soon as I get my new neon pro, Ill give it a shot.
Adrena1in
17-08-2006, 15:04
.. as i got a score close to the scores on the dual run leaderboard i gathered that they were 90 second runs aswell! :DThat's fair enough. I would generally expect most people to get a bit more with the 90s runs than with their top speed runs. I'm hoping to reach 30k, though I'd settle for 28k to start with. :p
Adrena1in
17-08-2006, 15:06
As soon as I get my new neon pro, Ill give it a shot.
But you hold one Powerball with two hands...how're you going to hold two Powerballs?! ;)
The Force
17-08-2006, 15:11
Would be interesting to know what I can score with a dual strength index run. However, to be honest, the amount of different powerball disciplines has increased so rapidly that I am already having a hard time right now, to participate in all competitions :( .
However, I will go for the dual run 90sec strength index for sure and post my scores here.
One question remains, how do you reset the counters on both powerballs simultaneously?
Regards,
The Force
Millenwagon
17-08-2006, 15:18
I can only start the powerballs with the stings, u have to get one ball going slowly then get the other one going in the other hand which was hard with the strings, then whilst spinning slowly u then press both of the timer buttons make sure ur already set to 90 seconds before u start then u can just press the clear/on button once and it will get it going (if that makes sense to anybody :confused: haha) The thing i found hardest was keeping the speed up, 90 second doesnt sound long, but when you've got a powerball in each hand going consistantly as fast as you can its pretty intense especially when ive only had a powerball for 10 days :p
Adrena1in
17-08-2006, 15:29
One question remains, how do you reset the counters on both powerballs simultaneously?
As Millenwagon says, with difficulty. :p
Guess you just have to accept that you're going to lose a fair few revs between pressing the buttons and getting the Powerballs up to speed. I might first try it with the rotors facing my palms, and using my forefinger on one hand to reset the Powerball in the other hand, then vice versa.
You're right though, there are a lot of leagues, with the potential for a lot more too. :cool:
Millenwagon
17-08-2006, 15:50
yep thats how i had to do it, with the rotor facing my hand (it was hard not to catch it at first too) i think in one hand it was opposite and the other hand the normal way round, cant remember how i ended up that way tho :confused: but yeah definately lost a few revs in the button pressing but thats what makes it more of a challenge, would be great to see if people have a go and see their scores, its a great challenge! :cool:
Adrena1in
17-08-2006, 20:29
Well, managed 28524 earlier - 14477 right-hand + 14047 left-hand. Not too bad, considering it was only my second attempt. Wasn't really warmed up though...I'm sure 30000 will be do-able.
Millenwagon
17-08-2006, 21:51
smoked me then! :p I'll beat you one day ;) reckon anybody could get 40000? :eek:
Millenwagon
17-08-2006, 22:04
just managed a 14304 on the dual hander, thats my new record think im gettin to grips with the 90 second strength run,. im gonna go for it for a record in the next couple of weeks :D what is ur top strength score adrenal1n? about 19000ish?
Adrena1in
18-08-2006, 08:35
I don't think anyone could ever get 40,000. Akis has only just about managed 20,000 with one Powerball, and around 18300 using only one hand. He'd get about 34000 to 35000 to start with I think.
My 90-s record with my right hand only is 16010. About 15500 with my left. I think I could manage at least 15000 with each hand at the same time, so my target is 30,000.
Millenwagon
18-08-2006, 12:00
Sounds good, i managed to increase my highest speed to 12074 and my strength run to 14800 (near that) yesterday, sounds poor compared to most but i seem to be increasing quite quickly and i notiec my bst perfromance was after a good warm, i think i did a 90 second run with each hand then had a minute or 2 rest then went for max speed and i bettered by around 500rpm, what's ur top speed?
Adrena1in
18-08-2006, 12:43
You will improve pretty rapidly to start with, but things will slow down the faster you get unfortunately. My record's 13579, which is almost a year old.
Anyway, let's not get off topic. This thread is just for Dual-Hand-90-second-Strength. :)
Mark Nykamp
18-08-2006, 20:27
12168 right + 11604 left = 23772
Will try again tomorrow, been for such a tiring workout today.
Millenwagon
18-08-2006, 20:52
Soon ill not even be on the scoreboard :P damn my pc is so broken.
Adrena1in
30-08-2006, 12:10
I guess this isn't going to be so popular after all. Not surprised really, very few people are man-enough to manage it. :rolleyes: :p
Millenwagon
01-09-2006, 17:02
haha yeah looks that way, lightweights ;o) come on Akis and Pako give it a shot lets see those raging scores
Adrena1in
09-10-2006, 13:12
One more chance to give this a go before I remove the thread and we forget about adding this as a new League...
Mmmh I should try, missed this thread too... :(
Installed
10-10-2006, 21:18
EGAD! I'll get working on my score then lol.
Installed
10-10-2006, 22:09
I wasnt really feelin' too hot today after a couple days of being sick, and my arms wore out much quicker than usual. So, heres my royally sucking score: 11795 LH + 12121 RH = 23916. I'll get workin on a better one as soon as I'm feeling better.
I dont really think you should make an official scoreboard for this mode, but you definitely don't have to remove the thread altogether.
i'm not particularly good at 90s one handed yet, but i managed 10526 L + 11777 R = 22303 not so great considering my dual speed run is better!
Adrena1in
20-10-2006, 08:11
I've just recently lent my spare Old Skool Powerball to a friend, who's got a sore arm, but I could give this another go with my Neons I suppose...I'm sure 30k wouldn't be a problem.
EDIT: Another score to add to my Speedo perhaps?! ;)
Installed
20-10-2006, 22:49
Idunno, its gettin' pretty convoluted. :p
MrCharlie
21-10-2006, 16:34
so DH endurance is 90s in each hand, correct?
Adrena1in
21-10-2006, 20:25
Correct MrCharlie. You going for it? I want to get another Metal so I can try a Dual-Hand 90s with two of them! :o
Millenwagon
25-10-2006, 15:14
christ dual handed metal 90 seconds, that'll be a challenge!
MrCharlie
25-10-2006, 21:33
I tried it. pure unadulterated torture.
dual 350hz 90s that is
Installed
26-10-2006, 00:31
I tried it. pure unadulterated torture.
dual 350hz 90s that is
LMAO! I can imagine... or can I? :o
Adrena1in
26-10-2006, 08:29
Okay, that's it, I've got to get myself another Metal!
MrCharlie
26-10-2006, 14:56
i didn't care for it much. it's really hard to regrip. they are hard to hold on to and I'm just scared of dropping one.
I like using them at the same time, but not balls to the wall for 90s.
Best warm up I've found for myself is about 50k revs in each hand on 350hz, then a single handed 90s 250hz with each hand. then the gyro's feel lighter :)
Adrena1in
26-10-2006, 15:15
then the gyro's feel lighter :)I found that when I was solely using the Metal for a couple of months. Towards the end it felt really light and easily manageable, and the 250 Hz felt like air.
I have to use a form of liquid magnesium for the Metal to help me grip it, but I still want to have a go at dual-hand 90s. :)
i'm not particularly good at 90s one handed yet, but i managed 10526 L + 11777 R = 22303 not so great considering my dual speed run is better!
Ok, I tried this again today
12075 L + 12779 R = 24854.. I'll try again in a few min and try to break 25k at least... just warming up for some dual speed runs anyways!
edit:
much better grip this time 12624 L + 13574 R = 26198
Installed
19-11-2006, 15:57
Nice. Grip makes a BIG difference doenst it. Especially in dual endurance where you cant really re-adjust your grip.
sam chan
19-11-2006, 17:56
Got my first power ball 11 days now, only got to 9500, but the last two days was practicing single hand thumb flick start, now I got it, no more cord ! I am a very happy man.
Sam Chan
You're right though, there are a lot of leagues, with the potential for a lot more too. :cool:
hmm maybe juggleing them at the same time? eh? eh!!? lol..
Realnils
15-01-2007, 15:48
Dual handed 90sec. endurance with metal powerballs!!! Hehe yeah that would be something!
petemayhew
28-01-2007, 19:14
yea i must admit its increasingly hard i managed 24200 at my best
but theres always room for improvement :D ... still thinking of the youth league though :(
Ye har I finally got to register
This sounded like fun
I managed
L 11882
R 13591
Tot 25473
Adrena1in
09-02-2007, 14:59
Not bad, straight into second place. I think it's about time I improve my score to over 30,000. :p
Tstering
09-02-2007, 15:19
Just done this from cold for the first time ever
LH 13401 + RH 14634 = 28035
That was hard in terms of co-ordination.
Installed
09-02-2007, 22:48
Maybe I should give this a re-try too, as soon as my repaired powerballs arrive that is. 28k sounds like a reasonable goal, and maybe 30k with a little Ed. Tech.:)
Just done this from cold for the first time ever
LH 13401 + RH 14634 = 28035
That was hard in terms of co-ordination.
Telling me!! on adual run coordination isn't to bad but dual endurance any time i try and pick up speed with my right(dominant) hand my left hand goes all quamby trying to stay up!!
barrybpl
10-02-2007, 05:56
I finally decided to have a go, and it turned out like this;
BarryBPL = 24905 (13081 Right + 11824 Left)
I only tried it the once so should be able to improve, I found reseting both counters without losing loads of speed difficult, then I lost track of the time and stopped too soon. Heh, I really messed it up infact.
petemayhew
10-02-2007, 15:23
I finally decided to have a go, and it turned out like this;
BarryBPL = 24905 (13081 Right + 11824 Left)
I only tried it the once so should be able to improve, I found reseting both counters without losing loads of speed difficult, then I lost track of the time and stopped too soon. Heh, I really messed it up infact.
hey thats better then my score :rolleyes: Maybe i'll have to have another try at that
Millenwagon
17-03-2007, 19:45
heeeee cool to see a few more people have had a go! i'll have another go at it soon, got a bit better at the powerball lately, i NEED a metal one still but theyre just so damn expensive! :mad:
petemayhew
18-03-2007, 13:50
yer the metals are quite deer but I'm contemplating on getting one :p :)
petemayhew
15-04-2007, 15:14
14062 L 14237 R = 28299
Adrena1in
15-04-2007, 16:30
Nice one pete...trying to push me on this one as well are you? Catching me in speed and 90s endurance not enough for you is it?! :p
nice :p didnt see this thread so i will be having an old whizz tonight could be a difficult one, bit of a sticky wicket. hopefully around 27k would be nice.
I will attempt dual 90s run soon after my finger heals,but i have to say i think tstering would pull off a great score for this
Adrena1in
16-04-2007, 20:03
I'm in quite good endurance mode this evening, so thought I'd tackle this scoreboard again. Slight improvement!
16218 right + 16065 left = 32283. :D
petemayhew
16-04-2007, 20:04
I'm in quite good endurance mode this evening, so thought I'd takle this scoreboard again. Slight improvement!
16218 right + 16065 left = 32283. :D
Woah go easy on us Tim! :eek:
About 45 secs through the run, arm says no :p So i find it hard to keep it spinning fast without causing any pain
Adrena1in
16-04-2007, 20:08
Woah go easy on us Tim! :eek:
I can do better. I wanted to oscillate my shoulders and get the Powerballs going out of phase with each other, but couldn't. After about 65 or 70 seconds I slowed, and then suddenly changed rotation direction, and not only stepped up a gear, but got out of phase, which felt easier. I'll pop the video up if anyone's interested.
erm yes please, i wanna see your "i can do better than this" video lol
Adrena1in
17-04-2007, 08:47
http://www.powerballs.com/score_videos/32281_90s_Dual_Tim-Bridle.mov
You'll see that I actually lied...it wasn't 16218 right, it was 16216. :o
You are freaking mad:D:D:D:D:eek:
You are freaking mad:D:D:eek:
Oh yeah, the soup is on but the gas is definitely not lit......
:p;):D
Adrena1in
18-04-2007, 12:05
Oh yeah, the soup is on but the gas is definitely not lit......
:p;):D
I like Gazpacho!! :o
I like Gazpacho!! :o
Had that once, sent it back coz it wasn't warm enough.....
:p;):D
Installed
18-04-2007, 16:47
Quite a nice run Tim. :) You guys are making my score look so pathetic... maybe I should just remove it to save the embarrassment!:o
Had that once, sent it back coz it wasn't warm enough.....
:p;):D
LOL, its supposed to be cold xD:D
LOL, its supposed to be cold xD:D
LoL
I know, I was joking :p;):D
petemayhew
18-04-2007, 23:19
Love to see Akis give this a crack or maybe Jeremy :eek: :cool:
Love to see Akis give this a crack or maybe Jeremy :eek: :cool:
Gazpacho or Dual hand endurance:confused:
Working dual-hands is a good idea, though probably not something you can hold competitions in. There are so many minutae that don't exist with 1-handed rotating, such as which hand is 'on the bottom', how the hands are overlapping, the angle of the forearms to each other, stuff like that.
Best left up to personal experimentation.
This led me to think of something though... something that obviously would not work with a single extremity....
We could obviously not hold and spin a powerball with one foot, but if you put it between both feet, couldn't that work?
Ankle mobility and a nice foot massage? You could even compete in that, since there wouldn't be much variety in how the feet grip.
petemayhew
24-05-2007, 20:44
We could obviously not hold and spin a powerball with one foot, but if you put it between both feet, couldn't that work?
Ankle mobility and a nice foot massage? You could even compete in that, since there wouldn't be much variety in how the feet grip.
There's a foot trainer which enables this.
Attaches to your foot and you place a spinning powerball in and try and rotate your foot to keep the ball going.
Installed
26-05-2007, 00:03
While breaking in my new balls, which currently are doing quite badly, I did a few dual 90s runs.
15406 + 15382 : 30788(G) :cool:
Adrena1in
30-05-2007, 12:55
Nice one Stephen, have added you to the scoreboard! :)
Installed
30-05-2007, 16:37
Thanks Tim.
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/8742/stephendual90s31417smalmc2.jpg
LH and RH respectively. :cool: (31417)
Adrena1in
31-05-2007, 14:35
Nice...have you ever noted down what your individual hand 90s records are?
I wonder if Dual-Hand Endurance would help with co-ordination, and therefore Dual-Hand Speed. If so, I ought to do a lot more DHE, because my DHS is just lousy. :o
Installed
31-05-2007, 18:53
Yes, but these latest dual 90s runs have been new records anyway. I don't think I could get much better of a score on either hand if I did them one at a time anyway, so might as well go for the big dually! :cool:
I havent really noticed an improvement in coordination since I started dual-90s, but I was already very coordinated before that, so maybe I'm about maxed out in that area. :p It cant hurt to give it a try though.
Installed
31-05-2007, 18:58
Well, this seems to be the only thing I CAN do nowadays. Really sorry to do this to ya Tim.... ;) :D Well maybe it will get some interest stirred up for this scoreboard... anyhow, be sure to check out the video, the technique is quite interesting. :)
VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMDPwzIjvws
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9492/stephendual90s33688smalij2.jpg
(LH 16797, RH 16891: 33688)
By the way Tim, you could leave my gripper score on the scoreboard with the appropriate markings if you prefer, to make sure you're designated as the top gripper.
Adrena1in
01-06-2007, 13:38
Really sorry to do this to ya Tim.... ;)When Pete said last night at the chat that you'd beaten my record I asked if it was Grip-Tech, and he said, "Don't be silly, this is Installed we're talking about!" :D
Nice score...I think I'd struggle to beat that because my LH record is about what you got with either hand. But when I'm next in Endurance Hot-Mode I'll give it a try. ;)
New record here 14647R + 14782L = 29429 slippin around like a greasy pig actually surprised myself I think I could go 15k each easy 29429
http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/rob2andy/th_31410.jpg
well I was right bit of suregrip
15672+15738=31410 they are left and right records I think:eek:
ps crap I just looked at installed's gripper and i'm 7 revs short
Installed
22-06-2007, 03:24
Its funny how each hand seems to push the other one to keep going. Both my gripper and ed tech Dual-90s runs were new individual records as well.
Too bad about those 7 revs. :D But I'm sure you'll whoop me next time around.
Tstering
03-07-2007, 18:46
Just tried this once and damn it hurts, and i'm rubbish.
LH13726 + RH14393 = 28119
New high score tonight L15887 +R 16150= 32037
new left and right hand records
Adrena1in
30-07-2007, 15:03
Going to give the Ultimate Powerball Challenge a try this evening, and then depending on how things go I might try another Dual 90s. It's ages since I did any proper endurance and I need to get back on track. Might also do a 1-hour.
Installed
30-07-2007, 20:54
Finally edged past my gripper! :( Nice work.
P.S. might wanna take out my old score in #7.
First go at least....
Left hand: 15593 very respectable score
Right Hand 13251 :o very UN-respectable score lmao..
Total: 28844
I wanna be able to get 30k but its very unlikely...
I kept revving left hand up with ease and forgot bout the right hand lol
sounds silly but its true....
GILPI :)
First go at least....
Left hand: 15593 very respectable score
Right Hand 13251 :o very UN-respectable score lmao..
Total: 28844
I wanna be able to get 30k but its very unlikely...
I kept revving left hand up with ease and forgot bout the right hand lol
sounds silly but its true....
GILPI :)
Thats an awesome Left hand score damn close to my best. I can't believe they are so uneven. When I do it it almost forces my weaker hand to keep up.
I reckon you'll do 30k easy
Adrena1in
01-08-2007, 08:22
When I do it it almost forces my weaker hand to keep up.
You're lucky...when I do it it forces my strong hand to slow down! Same with Dual-Hand speed! :(
yes he is very lucky.... i put in so much effort on one that i forget about the other, you would see if i recorded it but i will save the embarassment ;) i will have another crack probably thursday... day before i go on holz...
GILPI :)
New record tonight by a teeny bit
L16051 (new left record) R15998=32049
Ooops scratch that just smashed it
R16337 + L16072=32409
Both single hand new records as well
Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwaRoFeFkkg)
Ooops just did another one new left record 16197 bot only 32275 overall
Installed
09-12-2007, 00:38
I'm watching it right now. VERY NICE. :eek:
You get pretty sporadic near the end! But actually thats what works for me too, you gotta make full use of every possible muscle to get the best scores.
Installed
05-03-2008, 22:18
Are there no other takers on dual 90s??
I was just thinking, you should probably take off my Ed Tech score since I'm the only one who used that technique. :( Also, this thread would be more suited in the User Scores forum.
I haven't tried one of these for a while. I need to fairly even balls to track it properly on powerballyser. Leave your Ed score on. Gives me something to aim for:p
Adrena1in
06-03-2008, 09:42
At some point I'll probably give this another go too, as I'm sure 33k should be do-able, perhaps even 34k. I also think it might help with my Dual-Hand speed runs, as my co-ordination is just non-existent.
im gunna have crack at this next time but i wont get much
im gunna have crack at this next time but i wont get much
It's the crack that counts;)
Adrena1in
11-03-2008, 11:28
I had a crack at it the other night, during the Gyrotek Chat. Left hand speed was 13.7k, RH speed 14.4k, but Dual-Hand runs only just over 25k, so I hoped a Dual-Hand 90s might get my arms co-ordinated better. Blimey though, it was tough. My LH started cramping about halfway, so I re-adjusted my grip. For the last 20 seconds or so my left wrist started to bend itself away from my body, and it was difficult to stop it.
Ended up with something like 14.5k RH and 14.3k LH. Atrocious! :(
Im going to do this later looks pretty fun.
Had my first go at it and got: 11454 + 13108 = 24562 (Will give it another go soon)
Installed
01-05-2008, 20:16
Pretty good, you can improve though. :cool:
Good to see there is someone else with a touch of insanity giving these things a go:p Nice start
New 90's Dual :) 13741 + 12814 = 26555
New score today 33048 16468L + 16580R
vid here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvk3siXBNnk)
New score today 33048 16468L + 16580R
WHA??? HOLY WHOAH! I might try one of these....but I'd really have to be motivated...or really really out of my mind! No, seriously though, I'd like to give this a try sometime or even make a regular routine out of it, if only I weren't so scared of this...
Adrena1in
12-05-2008, 08:47
Good score Rob, I think you should try a bit harder and knock that Ed-Techer off the top spot! ;)
Good score Rob, I think you should try a bit harder and knock that Ed-Techer off the top spot! ;)
I think we should BOTH work a bit harder and knock that Ed-Techer off the top spot! ;)
I done a 90's and 30's:
90's - 14202 + 15092 = 29294
30's - 5505 + 5878 = 11383
Gave it my first try tonight (hopefully it won't be my last)...
27139 = L:12597 + R:14542
Edit: just one spot below James? I must not be doing too bad then...? Or is James not updated his score for a long while?
Gave it my first try tonight (hopefully it won't be my last)...
27139 = L:12597 + R:14542
Edit: just one spot below James? I must not be doing too bad then...? Or is James not updated his score for a long while?
Reasonable start I guess. When I warm up for my sessions I do one of these it's usually between 29k and 30k
Animalonfire
10-10-2008, 21:42
Will try this out as soon as my rotor gets back to me! (Targetting 25.7k)
Edit-To hard to co-ordinate a regular and a siggy. Prehaps some other time...
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